Father suing abortion clinic for performing an legal abortion on his girlfriend

[Plasmaball]

Do it with global warming…

[WuWei]

#hugsmatter

[Guvnah]

@LucyLou

Yeah well. Plenty of men don’t give a crap about supporting an offspring from a rando you-know-what.

That’s the problem.

Very true. And way too frequent. Often abortion “benefits” the guy, at the expense of both the baby AND the mother.

And that’s also a facet of our warped social conscience.

[Guvnah]

@WuWei

#hugsmatter

Correct. Nowadays we only have a smattering of hugs.

[Guvnah]

@dantes

Life doesn’t begin at conception. Life began billions of years ago.

Your life began at conception. Not billions of years ago.

Nice dodge though.

[dantes]

As you can see, there are competing versions of the word “life”.

I get that the abortion debate is one that has rational moral arguments on both side but I do get annoyed when people attempt to misuse science to override the other side. This happens on both sides to some extent.

[Guvnah]

@dantes

As you can see, there are competing versions of the word “life”.

Deflection.

You’re smart enough to know context.

Or at least you used to be.

[dantes]

Yes, the context is making moral distinctions, not scientific ones. I’m pointing out the attempt take a subjective (moral) distinction and masquerade it as an objective (scientific) distinction.

Please, leave science out of it. It doesn’t deserve this abuse.

[Guvnah]

@dantes

Yes, the context is making moral distinctions, not scientific ones. I’m pointing out the attempt take a subjective (moral) distinction and masquerade it as an objective (scientific) distinction.

Another example of thinking that emanates from our warped social conscience.

[dantes]

Do you have anything other than grandstanding to offer?

Again, you offer moral arguments which can be totally rational and defendable. You cheapen it when you attempt to justify it with science.

[Guvnah]

@dantes

Do you have anything other than grandstanding to offer?

It’s only grandstanding to you because it exposes with a glaring spotlight the truth of abortion. You kill a human life (no matter what else you want to call it) with every abortion. Your own child!!!

“Keep science out of this” ??

Truth hurts, man!

[dantes]

I know, I know. It’s an emotional subject but you don’t need to diminish others by declaring you own the truth in order to win an argument.

[Forcefield]

@Axxowiz

I don’t think rapist pay child support.

Of course they don’t.

[Guvnah]

@dantes

I know, I know. It’s an emotional subject but you don’t need to diminish others by declaring you own the truth in order to win an argument.

I’m not here to win an argument. Nor do I pretend to “own” truth.

Truth owns us.

I’m just here to shine that truth on those who try to justify their support for denying basic human rights to human lives. Science tells us that the fetus is a human life. Beyond that it’s pure immorality to explain away why we should not protect the most basic human right to life.

“They’re not people … they’re subhuman. They’re (property, or Tutsis, or Hutus, or undermensch, or Muslim, or infidels, or gays, or …) …”

“I know it’s a human life, but it’s not my child. It’s … something else.” It all requires the same warped conscience that our society and its laws celebrate today.

[dantes]

@Guvnah

Science tells us that the fetus is a human life.

No, it doesn’t. Science doesn’t claim to determine what constitutes “a human life”. You do, which is fine, but that’s because you’ve made a moral determination for yourself which you are trying to force on others by papering over ther fact.

[Bodecea]

@Guvnah

@calirepub

Women have been having abortions since biblical times.

Well now, that’s sure a great excuse for killing one’s child!

Why wouldn’t biblical times be an excuse like it is for CRCs all the time?

[mobulis]

@Guvnah

@dantes

I know, I know. It’s an emotional subject but you don’t need to diminish others by declaring you own the truth in order to win an argument.

I’m not here to win an argument. Nor do I pretend to “own” truth.

Truth owns us.

I’m just here to shine that truth on those who try to justify their support for denying basic human rights to human lives. Science tells us that the fetus is a human life. Beyond that it’s pure immorality to explain away why we should not protect the most basic human right to life.

“They’re not people … they’re subhuman. They’re (property, or Tutsis, or Hutus, or undermensch, or Muslim, or infidels, or gays, or …) …”

“I know it’s a human life, but it’s not my child. It’s … something else.” It all requires the same warped conscience that our society and its laws celebrate today.

Nope, Its a fetus, human and if the woman doesn’t want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death.

[Guvnah]

@dantes

No, it doesn’t. Science doesn’t claim to determine what constitutes “a human life”.

Just shaking my head at that one.

[Guvnah]

@Bodecea

Why wouldn’t biblical times be an excuse like it is for CRCs all the time?

Given the way you phrased that, I don’t see the point in assuming your question is a sincere one.

[dantes]

Obviously while sticking your fingers in your ears too.

It doesn’t make it less true.