EV maker Lucid is losing $338,000 per car, Rivian losing $33,000 per truck

From Bloomberg

Lucid, which according to a Bloomberg Intelligence estimate is set to burn $338,000 for every vehicle it makes this year, said in August that it still expected to produce at least 10,000 cars in 2023. Analysts’ average 2023 sales estimate for the firm has sunk nearly 50% over the past 6 months.

From TheStreet.com

On paper, electric vehicle manufacturer Rivian had a robust third quarter as the Irvine, Calif.-based company, said it’s online to deliver 52,000 vehicles for the fiscal year against expectations of 50,000 vehicles rolling out of manufacturing plants. . . .

The company sells its vehicles for about $80,000 each but it’s losing $33,000 on each vehicle sold due to high production costs, The Wall Street Journal reported.

What a bargain. :roll_eyes:

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Now comes the hard part.

  • We paid manufacturers to manufacture EVS,
  • We paid buyers to buy EVS.
  • We have even outlawed gasoline car sales in California and several other states by 2030

That resulted in 918,500 EVS selling in 2022, & presumably a comparable number in 2023.

Now everyone who has more money than brains has bought one.
Now everyone who want to signal “I love the planet & believe the MSM” has bought one.

But that was not enough, despite historically low interest rates, the industry is losing money faster than a teenager trading crypto, and cannot be sustained. If they do not ramp-up sales A LOT in the next few years, they will be as dead as the Stanley Steamer and the Yugo.

NOW, to continue, they have to compete with and gasoline combustion engines and all the eco-friendly alternatives because those are the only buyers left.

The future does not look bright for EVs.

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Look up the article on what it takes to make basic body repair on a Rivian

In all honesty, I’ve never heard of either two of these companies.

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Think solindra. same economic model

tax money in
money to democrat campaigns
bankruptcy

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Yeah it definitely sounds like another obvious scam, much like EV’s as a whole.

Tesla, founded in 2003, never had a profitable year until 2020.

Well Rivian is in all the (financial) media.
I am surprised you have not heard of them. They make electric Pick-up Trucks and electric SUVs. They are not selling much (yet) these products compete m/l directly with Elon Musk’s “cybertruck,” except that a Rivian ipck-up looks like a pick-up. the cyber truck looks like a mobile weapon form a sci-fi movie.

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Well, I live out in the country, where things powered by batteries are usually called toys, and we usually buy them for people called children. :wink:

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he is not allowed out into civilization :joy:

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Well if you spent more times indoors,
hunched over a computer or watching TV you WOULD have heard of Rivian.

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The funniest part is, I associate with more barely-20-somethings than all you old people here, with your lack of preschool and elementary school-aged children.

In the middle of nowhere and still more connected than y’all Boomers. :sunglasses:

I’ve seen em out in nerdville…damn they’re one ugly vehicles.

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get off my lawn sonny! :joy:

I plan on taking some paragliding lessons soon.

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Badass! You can buy my equipment for a big discount. I’m slightly bored with it. lol

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…and then…one must account for government subsidies and then…it’s back in the black…as long as Brandon is in office.

I love the idea and concept of EV but the harsh truth is they remain unaffordable for many plus the US does not have the infrastructure to make them viable as a mass consumer purchase

A few months ago I was in the market for a new car, looked at a couple of EVs but ended up buying a Tucson because I got all the bells and whistles I wanted at a price that did not break the bank.

Maybe a hybrid is the way to go next time.

I’ve dealt with EVs now for over a decade. The Chevrolet Volt was IMO one of the best buys applying electric that’s been created so far and yet…it wasn’t profitable because it didn’t sell well. It had virtually no problems with design either.

One thing I enjoy about driving them is regenerative braking. You must think ahead of hills and stop signs/lights and remove your foot from the throttle, allowing the car to recover as much of the energy used to get to the speed you were at. The braking is the force needed to run the generator for recharging your battery. There’s two speeds too. If you need to slow down faster, down grade the generator into a higher gear that generates even more power to recharge the battery but uses more of the inertia of the moving car. It’s like driving a video game. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

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