EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

It got kicked up to the federal government because it wasn’t working at the state level.

Not a good enough reason.
That means it wasn’t important to the people who elect state legislators. The federal government could go on an information blitz about the dangers… and it wouldn’t bother me too much. But the federal regulations ? Naaaa… bad juju.

No, it means it was so important it became a federal issue.

Very good juju. People benefit greatly from them.

Did someone change the constitution ?

Your opinion or the opinion of 10,000 lawyers and a million victims of cancer is not equivalent to a change in the constitution.

That’s not justification.

But I don’t think that they are unconstitutional, so what sort of good does this type of response do?

It very much is.

Why does the constitution limit federal authority?

I work with toxic chemicals at my job routinely. Some will kill on any limited exposure. It’s why we have protective equipment and alarms though. Turns out you can’t etch metals without using some nasty corrosives that will eat through you as well if not handled properly. Who knew?

So quite the opposite of what was originally claimed is actually happening? I’m SHOCKED i tell you just SHOCKED. :sunglasses:

Yeah it happens a lot around here. It’s why I don’t take anything posted here too seriously.

It doesn’t “limit” federal authority, as the federal government had somehow existed prior to the Constitution. It established federal authority. This authority is not unlimited, but who the hell thinks it is?

Exactly, the problem with asbestos wasn’t that it was dangerous, it’s that it wasn’t handled like it was.

It does doesn’t it. Ugh.

I used to do the same before i retired. We used to have to wear acid suits for some work and various other equipment depending on what we were doing and what chemicals were involved.

You place no limits on it if your justification is “we think it can do a better job than the states”

People flip out over HF. That will just eat your bones if you get it on you and it stays long enough. TDMAT will kill you on contact. It’s way worse. I have yet to work a manufacturing job that wasn’t dangerous in some capacity. If we outlawed everything that was harmful, nothing would get made.

Well, no. That DOES place limits on it, namely that it must do it better than the states. And I’m sorry for not listing the other “limits” that I place on federal policy. I didn’t know I had to spell out the entirety of my political worldview in a discussion on a narrow topic.

HF and TDMAT?