Enthusiasm in politics

[highroller]

I did. You just don’t think attempting to stay in office after losing an election is authoritarian.

[WuWei]

@highroller

I did. You just don’t think attempting to stay in office after losing an election is authoritarian.

The election isn’t over.

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

In a centrist way. You are not asleep you are biased. Severely.

Of course I am biased, are you claiming you’re not?

Crap i discarded my edit. “me too”

It’s ok. Look, this is actually very simple; in order for social justice to work, liberalism must die. Freedom must be replaced with liberty.

Why?

Because in liberalism you have a choice; and you will choose incorrectly because you don’t comprehend.

And right now, you are focused on the “few” which have been elected and reelected and are growing. That is a mistake.

“Social” Justice. “Justice” Democrats. Critical “Justice” Theory.

It is aimed at every aspect of society. In some areas it has advanced ahead of others. Being elected to national office is a lagging indicator of popularity.

Look at what the movements have already achieved.

They are waxing, not waning. The picture on the outside of the box is beautiful. The contents don’t match.

For them to win, you have to lose.

This is a perfectly reasonable position to hold and I understand what you have been trying to get across throughout this thread and in fact on this board for some time.

I never said that it was waning though. My position is that they will achieve some things but at the end of the day the will fold into the mold. Radicalism always… always calms down.

May be it’s my BA in history I don’t know but that’s my position. (that wasn’t me showing off btw that’s just me sayign what is guiding my position)

[conan]

So making sure the election is fair, and laws follow is now authoritarian?

Is that what you’re telling me?

[WuWei]

@highroller

The system isn’t authoritarian. Trump and his people are though.

I didn’t say America has an authoritarian system. I said Trump is authoritarian.

You can say it all day long. He followed the law.

[WuWei]

@highroller

I’m just asking what their principles are so I can compare them.

They are the same. Justice Democrats are CJTs.

[highroller]

For a practical purposes it is. They have done the counts and a couple of recounts. His lawyer, Rudy, are stated in a press conference that they are now attempting to have the election decided by the Supreme Court because “judges decide elections.”

[WuWei]

Social Justice is not radical.

[WuWei]

@highroller

For a practical purposes it is. They have done the counts and a couple of recounts. His lawyer, Rudy, are stated in a press conference that they are now attempting to have the election decided by the Supreme Court because “judges decide elections.”

The election is not over.

[JayJay]

@conan

So making sure the election is fair, and laws follow is now authoritarian?

Is that what you’re telling me?

He wasn’t making sure the election was fair.

He declared without evidence ahead of time it wasn’t going to be fair, and then went scattershot trying to find a court that would buy into his made-up narrative.

The narrative is the thing…the Chosen One cannot fail, so he must cast his failure as the Evil World resisting him, but never fear…his apparent failure will be even a greater victory.

Well that’s for outside consumption, being created by the spinmesiters to keep the faithful in line.

For Trump himself…he’s just learning the hard lesson most of us learn when we are five…sometimes the answer to your wants is “no”…and you can whine and cry about it, but the answer isn’t going to change.

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

Social Justice is not radical.

Social Justice isn’t, it’s current iteration or iow some of those who are pushing their subjective version of it are very much radical

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

Social Justice is not radical.

Social Justice isn’t, it’s current iteration or iow some of those who are pushing their subjective version of it are very much radical

Maybe to you, look at the country.

[WuWei]

The VP you voted for advocates equity. Do you?

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

Social Justice is not radical.

Social Justice isn’t, it’s current iteration or iow some of those who are pushing their subjective version of it are very much radical

Maybe to you, look at the country.

I am. 70m. Center left. Last time the loud ones were sliding flowers into people’s hair and others were bombing. Radicals

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

The VP you voted for advocates equity. Do you?

Balancing of the equities yes. Equity across the board is not possible.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

I am. 70m. Center left. Last time the loud ones were sliding flowers into people’s hair and others were bombing. Radicals

They aren’t the last loud ones. They are actually correct.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

The VP you voted for advocates equity. Do you?

Balancing of the equities yes. Equity across the board is not possible.

What the hell does that mean?

[DougBH]

@highroller

I did. You just don’t think attempting to stay in office after losing an election is authoritarian.

If his challenges fail in court (they will) and the electoral college votes for Biden (they will) and Trump refuses to transition, then not only will Trump be authoritarian he will be crazy.
But that will not happen.

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

The VP you voted for advocates equity. Do you?

Balancing of the equities yes. Equity across the board is not possible.

What the hell does that mean?

Equity in every instance is impossible to implement.

The other part was a supreme court reference. I firmly believe in it but that’s not what you were asking It’s just that word always makes me think of that. that was a little cryptic on my end.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

Equity in every instance is impossible to implement.

Why?

@FreeAndClear

The other part was a supreme court reference. I firmly believe in it but that’s not what you were asking It’s just that word always makes me think of that. that was a little cryptic on my end.

Huh?