Ending an active shooter encounter

Samm · 2018-09-11T23:13:22.469Z

Tilly_jow:

Samm:

Tilly_jow:

The history of gun violence in the US refutes that assumption

There is no history of gun violence. That’s a euphemism created by liberals to shift blame for violence committed by people to guns. Guns are inanimate objects that are incapable of committing any act on their own.

It’s more that the history of gun violence, it’s the culture of gun violence that people like the NRA infest.

And people know it.

That’s complete nonsense. The people who “infest” the NRA are perhaps as a group, the least likely to be involved in malicious violence with their guns of any other group of similar size in the country … including cops. What the people know is that you and your ilk are blowing smoke.

WildRose · 2018-09-12T16:00:18.437Z

Hogwash. Converting a semi auto to full auto is a federal crime. The NRA never has and never will encourage anyone to commit a crime.

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is sacrosanct and specifically protected by our constitution.

The lawful keeping and bearing of harms has absolutely zero to do with criminal activity.

WildRose · 2018-09-12T16:01:18.032Z

Yet another fact free post.

What percentage of NRA members have ever been convicted of a violent crime of any sort?

Cite your source.

Tilly_jow · 2018-09-12T19:21:10.955Z

WildRose:

Hogwash. Converting a semi auto to full auto is a federal crime. The NRA never has and never will encourage anyone to commit a crime.

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is sacrosanct and specifically protected by our constitution.

The lawful keeping and bearing of harms has absolutely zero to do with criminal activity.

We’re lucky full auto is already illegal, if it weren’t, the NRA would fight tooth and nail making it illegal.
And their rationale would be the same tired stich they always use: ‘‘Well, the criminals have full auto. Law abiding citizens need them too.’’
And you’d back them like it seems you back everything they support. Amirite?

WildRose · 2018-09-13T02:15:55.383Z

It is not illegal to own a full auto, you just have to file the right paperwork.

WildRose · 2018-09-13T02:17:10.717Z

Tilly_jow:

Samm:

Tilly_jow:

The history of gun violence in the US refutes that assumption

There is no history of gun violence. That’s a euphemism created by liberals to shift blame for violence committed by people to guns. Guns are inanimate objects that are incapable of committing any act on their own.

It’s more that the history of gun violence, it’s the culture of gun violence that people like the NRA infest.

And people know it.

WildRose:

Yet another fact free post.

What percentage of NRA members have ever been convicted of a violent crime of any sort?

Cite your source.

Still waiting on your citation.

Tilly_jow · 2018-09-13T02:17:30.426Z

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Tilly_jow · 2018-09-13T02:20:39.029Z

A total lack of abstract thinking must be a requirement for the NRA.

WildRose · 2018-09-13T02:22:32.995Z

The BS you keep making up is not “abstract thinking” it’s simply dishonest.

Samm · 2018-09-13T02:50:39.077Z

Tilly_jow:

A total lack of abstract thinking must be a requirement for the NRA.

NRA members share two very distinct characteristic. 1) they are overwhelmingly more law abiding than the general public and 2) they don’t put up with the ■■■■■■■■ made up by the likes of you. You haven’t posted a true statement since you entered this thread. Why don’t you slink back to your home under the bridge.

But you may have a point about us not being abstract thinkers. One meaning of abstract thinking is
thinking about things that are removed from the facts. You are aces at that.

Tilly_jow · 2018-09-13T02:56:38.844Z

I have the world on my side.

and a lot of the USA.

WildRose · 2018-09-13T03:13:19.774Z

No, what you have at best is a vivid imagination clouded with nonsensical bias.

Samm · 2018-09-13T03:38:52.169Z

Sure you do.

Perdidochas · 2018-09-19T19:33:47.778Z

See, that’s what you’ll NEVER be able to convince these people. That if no one is walking around armed, no one gets killed. These guys have the ‘‘I have to kill someone’’ mentality. They’re part of a subset of americans that have had this inbred into them, maybe it’s the Neanderthal gene expressing. There’s just nothing you can do.

You can’t convince us because it’s impossible to make it so nobody is walking around armed. That, and people are murdered without weapons quite frequently. In fact, more people are killed without the use of weapons in the U.S. than are killed by assault rifles in the U.S.

(per FBI statistics, in 2016 (last year I could find), there were 374 murders with rifles (all types, of which assault rifles are just a subset), while there were were 656 murders with the body (fists, etc.). )
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

Perdidochas · 2018-09-19T19:39:42.770Z

It’s support of semiautomatic rifles and similar that can be easily converted into full auto.

There’s plenty documentation out there that I don’t need to post it.

The favorite argument of somebody who doesn’t know what they are talking about…

Semi-automatic rifles on the market today cannot be easily converted into full auto.

Perdidochas · 2018-09-19T19:43:28.142Z

Tilly_jow:

We’re lucky full auto is already illegal, if it weren’t, the NRA would fight tooth and nail making it illegal.
And their rationale would be the same tired stich they always use: ‘‘Well, the criminals have full auto. Law abiding citizens need them too.’’
And you’d back them like it seems you back everything they support. Amirite?

You are ignorant. Full auto is not illegal federally (may be illegal in some states). If you can find one on the market (has to have been in the NFA market since before 1986), with a little paperwork and a lot of money, you can legally buy and own and shoot a full auto weapon. The hardest part is finding an affordable one on the market. Next, you have to go through fingerprinting, and pay a $200 transfer tax.

Perdidochas · 2018-09-19T19:44:28.042Z

Tilly_jow:

A total lack of abstract thinking must be a requirement for the NRA.

If you can’t pose a convincing argument, insult who you are arguing against…

Perdidochas · 2018-09-19T19:45:22.338Z

WildRose:

The BS you keep making up is not “abstract thinking” it’s simply dishonest.

Dishonest and/or ignorant. I vote ignorant, based on what he has written.

Samm · 2018-09-19T20:24:47.947Z

Perdidochas:

WildRose:

The BS you keep making up is not “abstract thinking” it’s simply dishonest.

Dishonest and/or ignorant. I vote ignorant, based on what he has written.

I vote for both. He refuses to be educated, which makes him dishonest.

WildRose · 2018-09-24T19:13:24.203Z

Well that’s utterly false on it’s face.

Humans have been and continue killing other humans without firearms for as long as we’ve had humans.

You don’t need a gun to commit a murder.

It is also absolutely impossible to remove all the guns from the United states that are in civilian hands.

We have a thriving black market in guns among the criminal class that already has somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 million guns circulating it and open borders that endure a steady supply for the life of this country.