End of the world? nope, it's just another government shut down

[tnt]

@Samm

Temporary losses and all within the system. The money is still within the economy, it’s just in other hands.

No, not all of it.

If a family can’t visit the Smithsonian and have lunch out on their vacation, that is lost revenue. The chance is gone.

[gooddad409]

@Optrader

@tnt

@Samm

What effects? Be specific.

As one small example - when the Smithsonian’s shut down, all the restaurants around the mall suffer. The tour bus companies lose revenue. The workers in the meuseums - not essential - don’t get paid, so their personal spending plummets.

All this lost revenue is gone. It won’t catch up when the shut down ends. Those hundred of tours with thousands of people supporting the small businesses in the area - those dollars are gone.

Whatever you do, you need to call the White House and remind Joe to barricade off the monuments that people can freely walk around during a shutdown too! Maybe Joe could order a big curtain be put up around the Washington monument to prevent people from freely viewing! Every American must equally feel the pain a government shutdown causes! Why we haven’t seen such pandemonium caused to a city and it’s businesses since the last BLM riot, and we all remember how outraged and concerned Libs were about peoples lives and businesses then!!

Thank you Good Libs!

I remember Obummer trying to barricade off Mt Vernon even though it is private property.

He did barricade off the roads where people couldn’t even drive through the National Park in the Smokey mts.

The man is a turd imo.

[Guvnah]

@tnt

Why do we have to shut down the government for the government to do their job.

Actually, that’s a very good question.

We run this government with deficit money all the time. What makes Oct 1 any different?

Is it because we don’t have a formal budget in place? All the rest of the year we bust the budget with new initiatives and programs and executive orders…

The farce of our federal budget is just a political football at this point.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@Guvnah

We run this government with deficit money all the time. What makes Oct 1 any different?

End of the fiscal year, no appropriations. It doesn’t have to be a “budget,” but the government can’t spend money Congress didn’t authorize.

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

[Oldandtired]

You don’t ever seem to worry about all the business that go out of business when the government shuts down drilling. All those people they put out of work. All the lost revenue to the area.

[Oldandtired]

What’s your plan? Seems to be let’s just keep on racking up the debt and when it all collapses so what.
You can’t tax your way out of this one.

[Oldandtired]

Guess you will just have to stay home.

[Oldandtired]

The country did not collapse when all those things happened during the big covid shutdown.

[Oldandtired]

Since old joe is suppose to be such a bipartisan why is he not making a deal?

[Guvnah]

@TheDoctorIsIn

It doesn’t have to be a “budget,” but the government can’t spend money Congress didn’t authorize.

So how can an executive order spend money that Congress didn’t authorize?

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@Guvnah

So how can an executive order spend money that Congress didn’t authorize?

It can’t.

[Guvnah]

@TheDoctorIsIn

It can’t.

Take it up with the CBO.

CBO Confirms: Biden’s Biggest Executive Actions Come with $532 Billion Price...

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@Guvnah

Take it up with the CBO.

You have to read the actual report.

The Cost of Eight Executive Actions Taken by the Biden Administration

None of those executive orders resulted in unappropriated spending. The “cost” they’re calculating is based on lost student loan interest, and things like that.

[Optrader]

@gooddad409

@Optrader

@tnt

@Samm

What effects? Be specific.

As one small example - when the Smithsonian’s shut down, all the restaurants around the mall suffer. The tour bus companies lose revenue. The workers in the meuseums - not essential - don’t get paid, so their personal spending plummets.

All this lost revenue is gone. It won’t catch up when the shut down ends. Those hundred of tours with thousands of people supporting the small businesses in the area - those dollars are gone.

Whatever you do, you need to call the White House and remind Joe to barricade off the monuments that people can freely walk around during a shutdown too! Maybe Joe could order a big curtain be put up around the Washington monument to prevent people from freely viewing! Every American must equally feel the pain a government shutdown causes! Why we haven’t seen such pandemonium caused to a city and it’s businesses since the last BLM riot, and we all remember how outraged and concerned Libs were about peoples lives and businesses then!!

Thank you Good Libs!

I remember Obummer trying to barricade off Mt Vernon even though it is private property.

He did barricade off the roads where people couldn’t even drive through the National Park in the Smokey mts.

The man is a turd imo.

These are the things I was referring to, and don’t forget he barricaded the WWII monument just as a group of WWII veterans from around the country showed up to visit the memorial in their honor.

[kermode]

@Optrader

These are the things I was referring to, and don’t forget he barricaded the WWII monument just as a group of WWII veterans from around the country showed up to visit the memorial in their honor.

Government shutdowns are no big deal, but don’t you dare shut down my stuff!!!

[gooddad409]

@Optrader

@gooddad409

@Optrader

@tnt

@Samm

What effects? Be specific.

As one small example - when the Smithsonian’s shut down, all the restaurants around the mall suffer. The tour bus companies lose revenue. The workers in the meuseums - not essential - don’t get paid, so their personal spending plummets.

All this lost revenue is gone. It won’t catch up when the shut down ends. Those hundred of tours with thousands of people supporting the small businesses in the area - those dollars are gone.

Whatever you do, you need to call the White House and remind Joe to barricade off the monuments that people can freely walk around during a shutdown too! Maybe Joe could order a big curtain be put up around the Washington monument to prevent people from freely viewing! Every American must equally feel the pain a government shutdown causes! Why we haven’t seen such pandemonium caused to a city and it’s businesses since the last BLM riot, and we all remember how outraged and concerned Libs were about peoples lives and businesses then!!

Thank you Good Libs!

I remember Obummer trying to barricade off Mt Vernon even though it is private property.

He did barricade off the roads where people couldn’t even drive through the National Park in the Smokey mts.

The man is a turd imo.

These are the things I was referring to, and don’t forget he barricaded the WWII monument just as a group of WWII veterans from around the country showed up to visit the memorial in their honor.

That was just nasty. I thought Obummer a nasty and often petty character myself.

[Optrader]

@gooddad409

@Optrader

@gooddad409

@Optrader

@tnt

@Samm

What effects? Be specific.

As one small example - when the Smithsonian’s shut down, all the restaurants around the mall suffer. The tour bus companies lose revenue. The workers in the meuseums - not essential - don’t get paid, so their personal spending plummets.

All this lost revenue is gone. It won’t catch up when the shut down ends. Those hundred of tours with thousands of people supporting the small businesses in the area - those dollars are gone.

Whatever you do, you need to call the White House and remind Joe to barricade off the monuments that people can freely walk around during a shutdown too! Maybe Joe could order a big curtain be put up around the Washington monument to prevent people from freely viewing! Every American must equally feel the pain a government shutdown causes! Why we haven’t seen such pandemonium caused to a city and it’s businesses since the last BLM riot, and we all remember how outraged and concerned Libs were about peoples lives and businesses then!!

Thank you Good Libs!

I remember Obummer trying to barricade off Mt Vernon even though it is private property.

He did barricade off the roads where people couldn’t even drive through the National Park in the Smokey mts.

The man is a turd imo.

These are the things I was referring to, and don’t forget he barricaded the WWII monument just as a group of WWII veterans from around the country showed up to visit the memorial in their honor.

That was just nasty. I thought Obummer a nasty and often petty character myself.

They’re all nasty and petty, but what do I know, I’m just a deplorable person bitterly clinging to my guns and Bible

[johnrandolph]

[Samm]

@Publius

That “temporary” can be a substantial length of time, and cause a lot of problems for a lot of people both in and outside the government. The administrative and operational costs involved in shutting down major programs and then starting them up again at some unpredictable future date are substantial. Penalties can accrue when contract payments aren’t made on time. Members of the public with time-sensitive issues (federal licenses, passports, IRS issues, pending applications for government approvals or services, etc.) are just screwed. Got a National Parks vacation planned? Fuggedaboudit.

So what? Why aren’t you as concerned about the permanent effects that further bloating the budget would have?

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

Their demands are simple “spend more money that we don’t have,”

The Budget must first pass in the House (it’s a Constitutional thing … ) Be patient. One step at a time.

Why do we have to shut down the government for the government to do their job.

Because those are the rules. The authority to spend the money running the government expires midnight tomorrow.