I won’t even dignify your race baiting with a reply.
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You obviously believe that to be the case, but I don’t. So we have established no such thing.
I’ve made my position very clear. You have misrepresented my position and expect me to respond to your mischaracterization. Fat chance. 
In states where the practice is legal, volunteers or campaign workers can go directly to the homes of voters, collect the completed ballots, and drop them off en masse at polling places or election offices. In some states, ballot harvesters can be paid hourly for their work collecting ballots.
Pretty much exactly what I am claiming. I’m not making this stuff up, I’m simply connecting the dots with my arguments. If DEMs get their way, the above will be common practice all across the nation.
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None of which contradicts what I said, but thanks for the links.
Did you note the unlimited harvesting is big in Texas and Florida? Maybe that is how those states stay red?
So, any chance you can show as nothing nefarious or illegal going on here?
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Must be nice just dismissing anything that you disagree with. Signal when you are ready to have a substantive discussion.
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Your premise is false. That you found a linky to confirm your bias is not interesting to me at all.
And what premise is that? And have you shown it to be false or is just your feefees?
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Your premise that there are people unable to get ID. It’s a myth.
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Oh, ok. Well I’m glad you cleared that up and supported it with your extensive research.
Oh wait. You don’t have ANY research? Just your feefees? Hmm…
Tell them they can pick up their next stimulus check at the DMV (get a free voting ID at the same time).
Watch how fast they show up.
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You implied that single ballots are handled by a close relative. That has nothing to do with the widespread harvesting discussed in the above articles.
I didn’t because your statement is patently false. But please feel free to back it up with factual data.
As you point out, the bundlers are acting above board in States where that type of activity is legal.
So let me set the stage here.
Paid bundlers are sent to targeted poor neighborhoods in States with:
Same day registration with no id required
Grossly extended early voting
Very lax enforcement of deadlines to submit ballots
Very aggressive ballot harvesting
DEM operatives are very cognizant of the democratic voter demographics and what they need to tip a close race. The bundlers are then paid to blanket targeted neighborhoods, bundling the massive number of required votes.
All legal, above board and coming to a State near you, courtesy of those thoughtful DEMs who want everyone’s vote to count - as long as it is for the DEM candidate.
Is there any wonder the GOP is fighting so hard to prevent that from happening?
Other jurisdictions are able to conduct fair elections that are trusted without requiring a voter to provide photo id when voting; I see no reason why the USA could not do so as well.
Elections in America especially at local levels have been rigged, scammed, fixed and rife with fraud for a couple of centuries. It’s the reality of the systems.
First of all, that’s not what bundlers are. You’re getting your terminology confused. Bundlers raise money for the campaign, they’re not paid.
Second, it appears your nightmare scenario can be summed up by “More poor people will vote,” which just doesn’t sound so scary to me.
How does one aggressively “ballot harvest?”
I was looking at the countries that require and ID to vote and the only two western countries I could find that didn’t was Sweden and Australia. Some of the countries in the west have a significant minority population as well. I am not sure why voting ID is considered racist here but election integrity in the rest of those countries.
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When a candidate in an election can be in charge of that election it certainly speaks to the need for electoral reform. Of course, photo id does not address that situation. Similarly, drawing boundaries to gerrymander the election is another area of electoral reform that should be addressed if one actually wanted legitimate elections to be fair.
The difference has to do with the fact that this country has never looked particularly kindly on the papers, please mindset.
