According to the CBO:
If Donald Grump leaves SS and Medicare untouched (which the BBB does and he has pledged to do)
spending on those item swill increase:
SS: increase $92b over current levels
Medicare: increase $78b over current levels
Also
Interest on the debt increase $68b over current levels
And
Discretionary spending: increase $3b over current levels
That is not tea leaves, nor sale charts or silly-putty nor chia pets, nor tapioca pudding, nor whatever made-up phony name you are going to assign it next.
Those are numbers from the CBO.
That total $241b in spending increases
The CBO also notes that if Pres. Trump gets every single one of his proposed retroactive spending cuts (outside of BBB,) those will total $168b.
So anyway, Elon says, “Kill the bill!” and Trump says, “Elon has TDS!” so Elon says, “I’m the reason Trump won!” so Trump says, “We waste billions on Elon!” so Elon says, “Epstein!” and Trump says, “Deport!” and Elon says, “Impeach!”
And THAT’s why women are too emotional to be President.
I am a die hard conservative, who has been so supportive of Trump’s more conservative polices, I have often been mistaken for a die hard Trump supporter.
I have also been posting extensively in favor of tariffs, an issue that divided conservatives.
You really really are backing up the wrong tree here.
You are just plain mistaken.
The “G” and “T” keys are right next to each other. And there were lots of typos in that post. I chalked it up to him typing too quickly. But given the subject matter of the thread and Trump’s reaction to Musk, it’s a humorous slip of the keyboard.
Who apparently disregards the text of our Constitution and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text.
Our founders put a specific procedure in the Constitution to be used to extinguish any deficiency in revenue from imposts, duties and excise taxes. That procedure is found in the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment which Speaker Johnson refuses to even mention with respect to balancing the annual budget.
Meanwhile,
one of the better parts of BBB is that
Donald Trump has proposed a 3.5% tax on remittances sent abroad by foreign workers, including those from Mexico.
Congress has brought us to a ruinous financial situation in which our national debt, including unfunded debt liabilities are at a staggering $ 136 Trillion, and Speaker Johnson’s ‘‘One Big Beautiful Bill Act’’ adds to that national debt.
The Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment, if adopted, would actually make every State’s Congressional Delegation immediately accountable to their own State Legislature if they decided to borrow to meet expenses during the course of a fiscal year.
Seems that neither Musk, Trump or Speaker Johnson embraces the accountability which the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment would bring.
JWK
We are here today and gone tomorrow, but what is most important is what we do in-between and is what our children will inherit and remember us by.
No.
It took decades to build up the Debt we have now.
You can’t expect Trump to fix it over night.
He has to turn around the whole way of how Gov. spent moneys before and this changes he is making are just a first step.
It takes money and spending to reorganize your bussiness for the future gain, we ALL know that.
NO matter what he does otherwise the Debt wont be fixed overnight.
I think @Gaius was just saying we have to stop adding to the debt. And it was a general statement.
And you’re right. It’s a huge battleship that needs to be turned.
Personally, I’d be happy with the next budget just being able to stop the current growth of the DEFICIT (never mind the debt) this first Trump year. (Take out the covid years, and there has been a relatively constant growth in the deficit each year over this entire century so far.) One step better would be for Trump’s first year to spend no more than the prior year. (Effectively an overall spending freeze, which would shrink the deficit, but still grow the debt.) Trump is not a dictator. Cannot be a dictator. And he’s up against an entire dysfunctional government.
According to CBO, at current funding formulas “staying the same” requires and additonal $238b spending on SS, Medicare and interest on the debt.
Zero spending increase therefore, means cutting $238b from the rest of the budget. It works out to about a 7% in everything that is not SS, medicare or interest on the debt. (see below)
It can be done. It is not impossible. But it will not happen under any bill that the president has put forth.
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Via Grok:
“Mandatory” Spending (excluding Social Security and Medicare): ~$1.7 trillion
increase 
