If you have the power to think Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden as a US goal, I admire your imagination.
On June 5, 2013, The Guardian in Britain published the first story based on Snowden’s disclosures. It revealed that a secret court order was allowing the U.S. government to get Verizon to share the phone records of millions of Americans.
…and now he must die.
That can’t be. Obama’s DNI stated under oath to Congress that they did not keep data on millions of Americans. The Guardian is lying. Snowden was lying and should go to jail for it.
I joined in '04 when the freedom fries were still crispy. lol
WuWei: Borgia_dude:It is substantively different than trying to coerce a foreign govt to investigate a political rival.
How?
…How is it any different than using Steele?
One is attempting to coerce a foreign govt into doing something that is aligned with govt goals.
The other was purely political.
Was Steele purely political?
OK - but just to be clear, this is what I was alluding to. Both trump and Hannity doing an about face on their views of Assange:
Russian Hacking Has Changed Views of WikiLeaks' Julian Assange - The Atlantic
Nobody here changed.
Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude:It is substantively different than trying to coerce a foreign govt to investigate a political rival.
How?
…How is it any different than using Steele?
One is attempting to coerce a foreign govt into doing something that is aligned with govt goals.
The other was purely political.
Was Steele purely political?
Steele is a foreign govt?
I was against the leak that shown that helicopter kill the Iraqi that was and informant, and there was another were it was leaking our foreign spies names or something like that I remember the talk, I don’t remember if that was Snowden or not but I was against that, regardless of who was the president. However I was also against the data collecting that was uncovered with the NSA spying on U.S. citizens.
WuWei: Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude:It is substantively different than trying to coerce a foreign govt to investigate a political rival.
How?
…How is it any different than using Steele?
One is attempting to coerce a foreign govt into doing something that is aligned with govt goals.
The other was purely political.
Was Steele purely political?
Steele is a foreign govt?
Yes. What were his sources?
Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude:It is substantively different than trying to coerce a foreign govt to investigate a political rival.
How?
…How is it any different than using Steele?
One is attempting to coerce a foreign govt into doing something that is aligned with govt goals.
The other was purely political.
Was Steele purely political?
Steele is a foreign govt?
Yes. What were his sources?
No, he wasn’t.
WuWei: Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude:It is substantively different than trying to coerce a foreign govt to investigate a political rival.
How?
…How is it any different than using Steele?
One is attempting to coerce a foreign govt into doing something that is aligned with govt goals.
The other was purely political.
Was Steele purely political?
Steele is a foreign govt?
Yes. What were his sources?
No, he wasn’t.
Of course he is. Who were his sources?
Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude: WuWei: Borgia_dude:It is substantively different than trying to coerce a foreign govt to investigate a political rival.
How?
…How is it any different than using Steele?
One is attempting to coerce a foreign govt into doing something that is aligned with govt goals.
The other was purely political.
Was Steele purely political?
Steele is a foreign govt?
Yes. What were his sources?
No, he wasn’t.
Of course he is. Who were his sources?
Steele was not a foreign govt.
On June 5, 2013, The Guardian in Britain published the first story based on Snowden’s disclosures. It revealed that a secret court order was allowing the U.S. government to get Verizon to share the phone records of millions of Americans.
…and now he must die.
oh its a lot worse then that.
I was against the leak that shown that helicopter kill the Iraqi that was and informant, and there was another were it was leaking our foreign spies names or something like that I remember the talk, I don’t remember if that was Snowden or not but I was against that, regardless of who was the president. However I was also against the data collecting that was uncovered with the NSA spying on U.S. citizens.
Iraqi leak where done by wikileaks.
Snowden release information on NSA data collection.
Smyrna:On June 5, 2013, The Guardian in Britain published the first story based on Snowden’s disclosures. It revealed that a secret court order was allowing the U.S. government to get Verizon to share the phone records of millions of Americans.
…and now he must die.
Were you around here in 2007? That year the New York Times published an article exposing a Bush Administration program of authorizing warrantless wiretaps. Quite a few people’s responses on these boards was that the whole NYT organization needed to be prosecuted for treason.
They don’t need wiretap anymore.
they created backdoor access in most major telecommunication system now,
now they are using mass facial recognitation AI.
Smyrna:On June 5, 2013, The Guardian in Britain published the first story based on Snowden’s disclosures. It revealed that a secret court order was allowing the U.S. government to get Verizon to share the phone records of millions of Americans.
…and now he must die.
That can’t be. Obama’s DNI stated under oath to Congress that they did not keep data on millions of Americans. The Guardian is lying. Snowden was lying and should go to jail for it.
They don’t “Keep” the data its only stored temporary till its reviewed by AI software for keywords.
though the NSA has fired a few operator for spying on their exes.
Smyrna: FloridaYankee:Joe Biden supports prosecuting traitors. This is terrible!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This was the predominant opinion at the time ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So what was wrong with his actions?
I will compare him to Daniel Jones who conduct the “Terror report”, he was worried about the report being dismissed by Congress and had the chance to leak what he learned. but he refused and said the report should come out publicly via Congress.
Snowden had the similar chance he could have gone to the legal route but he choose to leak the information privately to the Media.
That is why Snowden is a criminal.
Steele was not a foreign govt.
He was an agent of one. Who were his sources?
He was an agent of one. Who were his sources?
Was. Paste tense at the time, no?
FloridaYankee: Smyrna: FloridaYankee:Joe Biden supports prosecuting traitors. This is terrible!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This was the predominant opinion at the time ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So what was wrong with his actions?
I will compare him to Daniel Jones who conduct the “Terror report”, he was worried about the report being dismissed by Congress and had the chance to leak what he learned. but he refused and said the report should come out publicly via Congress.
Snowden had the similar chance he could have gone to the legal route but he choose to leak the information privately to the Media.
That is why Snowden is a criminal.
I was asking about Biden.
SixFoot:Article is from September, 2019, interview with the war hero Brian Williams.
It would appear as though the Kid Sniffer was calling around threatening every ally that even thought about letting Snowden stay there.
That must be (D)ifferent.
Edward Snowden: Joe Biden Threatened Countries Not To Give Me Asylum | Video | RealClearPolitics
Was. Paste tense at the time, no?
Right, I am sure if Meuller had found Trump was working with an ex-agent of Russia you would have said, well that isn’t the government, Russia says he isn’t an agent any longer.