Early August midterm outlook

[Samm]

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

The problem is not Dobbs, the problem is the state governments that went crazy after Dobbs.

That was inevitable.

Roe was bad law.

Be that as it may, the right wing led states overreacting to Dobbs was inevitable.

As was Libs setting their hair on fire over it. It is just as inevitable that the overreaction by some conservative states (much of which was preset by poorly thought out trigger laws that were passed years prior to Dobbs) will moderate with time as the majority public opinion works its way through the political process.

[W_and_C]

Interesting thing about PA Senate race:

Same pollster that’s scoring Oz down by 4 also has Trump up by 5 over Biden. So seemingly there are some who would vote for Trump and Fetterman ?

[DisturbedGuy]

The GOP has pulled ad buys in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona. The expected “red wave” is looking more and more like a ripple. Trump cost the party the senate in the last election and he’s likely to do it again with his horrible candidate endorsements.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@DisturbedGuy

The GOP has pulled ad buys in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona. The expected “red wave” is looking more and more like a ripple. Trump cost the party the senate in the last election and he’s likely to do it again with his horrible candidate endorsements.

Don’t gloat too much. It’s more likely than not that we’ll find a way to blow it. Student loan forgiveness, for example.

[FreeAndClear]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@DisturbedGuy

The GOP has pulled ad buys in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona. The expected “red wave” is looking more and more like a ripple. Trump cost the party the senate in the last election and he’s likely to do it again with his horrible candidate endorsements.

Don’t gloat too much. It’s more likely than not that we’ll find a way to blow it. Student loan forgiveness, for example.

While you are of course correct, the whole this hurts the working class isn’t one that’s going to fly. Working class was sold on the college dream too. They have kids in college or just graduated. The talking point misses the mark spectacularly.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@FreeAndClear

the whole this hurts the working class isn’t one that’s going to fly.

It doesn’t have to be accurate to be effective, but I take your point.

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

@Supreme_War_Pig

@DisturbedGuy

The GOP has pulled ad buys in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona. The expected “red wave” is looking more and more like a ripple. Trump cost the party the senate in the last election and he’s likely to do it again with his horrible candidate endorsements.

Don’t gloat too much. It’s more likely than not that we’ll find a way to blow it. Student loan forgiveness, for example.

While you are of course correct, the whole this hurts the working class isn’t one that’s going to fly. Working class was sold on the college dream too. They have kids in college or just graduated. The talking point misses the mark spectacularly.

The loan forgiveness is for those currently in debt only. It does not affect paid off debtors or future debtors. And the move most certainly goes against working class values.

[JayJay]

Fetterman has anywhere between a 9 and 13 point lead.

Where is you evidence that a) the race is tightening and/or b) it’s because people are concerned with Fetterman’s health?

[FreeAndClear]

@Samm

@FreeAndClear

@Supreme_War_Pig

@DisturbedGuy

The GOP has pulled ad buys in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona. The expected “red wave” is looking more and more like a ripple. Trump cost the party the senate in the last election and he’s likely to do it again with his horrible candidate endorsements.

Don’t gloat too much. It’s more likely than not that we’ll find a way to blow it. Student loan forgiveness, for example.

While you are of course correct, the whole this hurts the working class isn’t one that’s going to fly. Working class was sold on the college dream too. They have kids in college or just graduated. The talking point misses the mark spectacularly.

The loan forgiveness is for those currently in debt only. It does not affect paid off debtors or future debtors. And the move most certainly goes against working class values.

The biggest group effected by the forgiveness are the under 25….

[Samm]

What’s your point? Are you saying that they don’t have working class values?

[FreeAndClear]

@Samm

What’s your point? Are you saying that they don’t have working class values?

I outlined my point In the post to which you originally responded. The working class has college kids in their families and i think that the talking point that their values Override getting government money back after beleiveing that they give too much to the government via taxes etc is wrong.

[Samm]

What does that have to do with the government using public money to forgive private debt? And now are you saying that the working class does not hold to their values when it comes to their kids? Do you seriously think the will reward Democrats this November simply because Biden gave their kids money that they neither earned or deserved?

[JayJay]

The government isn’t using public money to satisfy private debt.

These are federal student loans. The government took those over.

[Samm]

@JayJay

The government isn’t using public money to satisfy private debt.

These are federal student loans. The government took those over.

Are you kidding? Who do you think funded the Feds?

[Oldandtired]

Don’t count on it.
Think of all those parents who worked, did without and paid for their child’s college education. Who are now going to have to do without and pay for the education of other people’s children because those parents were too selfish to save and do without. There are more of these people than parents who have children still in college or have just graduated.

[JayJay]

@Oldandtired

Don’t count on it.
Think of all those parents who worked, did without and paid for their child’s college education. Who are now going to have to do without and pay for the education of other people’s children because those parents were too selfish to save and do without. There are more of these people than parents who have children still in college or have just graduated.

Did they complain when they subsidized the wealthy?

Isn’t it amazing how silent they were…because that was “spurring economic growth” by “helping the Job Creators”.

All in the messaging…

[Samm]

Yes. And your message is growing stale.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@Samm

What’s your point? Are you saying that they don’t have working class values?

I outlined my point In the post to which you originally responded. The working class has college kids in their families and i think that the talking point that their values Override getting government money back after beleiveing that they give too much to the government via taxes etc is wrong.

Are parent loans transferred as well?

[JayJay]

@Samm

Yes. And your message is growing stale.

No they did not complain.

And it’s not my messaging…

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@Samm

What’s your point? Are you saying that they don’t have working class values?

I outlined my point In the post to which you originally responded. The working class has college kids in their families and i think that the talking point that their values Override getting government money back after beleiveing that they give too much to the government via taxes etc is wrong.

Are parent loans transferred as well?

Not sure what ya mean. Transferred?