National disasters and wartime. Now you’re getting it. By definition a pandemic that kills millions isn’t localized to a state and presents a clear and present danger to the welfare of the nation at large. Waiting for states to become overwhelmed is a negligent idea when it comes to deadly pandemics

Wow you found something that literally every human being with a pulse in the United States already knew.

That law cannot even be invoked without an existing disaster or time of War.

What the hell is that even got to do with what we’re discussing?

Under what Authority or justification could the president have declared a national disaster invoking the nbpa and all of his other emergency powers in December or January before anyone had even declared a pandemic in China, much less in the United States?

What does that have to do with your state county and local officials who failed in their own disaster prep and planning?

They’ve had decades to prepare for outbreaks, we have had outbreaks in the United States as well as epidemics and pandemics, since the first century in our history, if everybody knew this was a potential for the future, because it’s happened before.

If your community or your state is in trouble right now, it’s because they failed in their prior preparation and planning, that’s not the federal government’s responsibility.

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There was no pandemic in the United States until March and that’s when the president invoke his emergency Powers with a declaration of National Emergency.

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You’re asking what the defense production act, which Trump is exercising in direct response to COVID-19, has to do with COVID-19?

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There are only two states of the USA that have a greater population than Australia’s population.

As for the rest of the nonsense contained in your post you would be well advised to check out what the governors of the states in the USA are saying about the current situation in the USA.

I have never claimed to be an expert on the subject, what I have stated is perfectly true I have a working knowledge, training, and education inirology and epidemiology.

If my license was still active I would be out there helping right now but it’s not.

I’m not acting like anything I’m simply sharing what I know.

Interstate commerce, national defense, general welfare all encapsulate a national response to a deadly pandemic which threatens the nation. Wartime powers can be declared to override the need for state declarations. Pandemics aren’t bound to state borders, thus they are not bound to state authority

One more time, the national response is underway, the reason we are having such a painict right now is because your state and your local governments failed to have and enact their own disaster plans, and prepare ahead of time.

This is irresponsible as hell, and they have literally had centuries to prepare, because we had epidemics and pandemics in the United States since our first century as a nation.

Now everyone’s panicking because they failed piss poor planning gave us piss poor performance.

Now we have communities and States getting overwhelmed because they failed in their first Duty which was to be prepared.

Now they’re all whining and bitching and trying to blame the federal government for their own damn failures.

That act does not give the president any Authority prior to an emergency, that responsibility relies at your state county and local government.

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Oh look your needle is stuck in the same Groove again. Get back with me when you have some new material, or you’ve done is I’ve asked.

If you want to see my criticisms they are all over this website just go read them.

It isn’t required that states make the declaration for a national (non state localized) pandemic that would kill millions. The POTUS can assert wartime privileges (as Trump has), along with asserting interstate commerce and general welfare statutes as justification for pre-emptive regulation of commerce.

Then get it active. Here in Indiana they are relaxing all the rules regarding licensing to get the people who have the training on the front lines. I am sure other states are doing similar things.

In my community I am getting groceries for those who cant and through my employer connecting with the elderly who are isolated to help them through this. Its not a lot I know but its my way of contributing.

Aw crap i bet your right.

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Well the constitution in the wall both say otherwise, again go take a government and civics class.

Simply linking two things on the internet you don’t understand, is not helping your case.

The federal government has no Authority to act., prior to a disaster occurring, that is the responsibility of your state and local government.

Until they ask for a disaster declaration in that state, the federal government has no Authority whatsoever to step in, doing so would be illegal.

What do you not get about that?

I’ve been active in the last week I have killed processed and delivered 6000 pounds of meat to local and area food banks.

I’m trying to get another 3 tons by the end of the week for them.

What have you besides bags bag of few groceries?

Given your expertise then by the end of April what will be the number of coronavirus deaths in the USA?

And I understand it correctly in the context of COVID-19. Take it to the Supreme Court if you disagree.

False. Let me repeat why below.

This is a national emergency. Not a state disaster. The virus isn’t something that’s localized to a state

No you don’t understand it in any context obviously as you have repeatedly demonstrated.

That’s how come once Governor whiny ass in Michigan finally filed her disaster declaration she got help from FEMA.

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Please cite the post in which I have claimed expertise on this subject.

If it makes you feel better to belittle anyones contribution go for it mate.

Though I am very happy to see you have come to understand that foodbanks play a regrettable yet very important role in society. I know in the past you have been critical of those who use foodbanks. It does my heart good to see growth in ones mindset and reaffirms my belief in the goodness of people.