Does congress have the right to Trump's tax records?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-04-19T18:18:19.500Z

DougBH:

You can “lay the groundwork” because you know you are skating on thin ice. Judges aren’t necessarily unaware of whats really going on.

Judges are generally hesitant to rule on the merits of a congressional inquiry. It’s a separation of powers issue.

As long as Congress can articulate a legislative purpose, they meet the legal standard.

altair1013 · 2019-04-19T18:20:24.467Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

As long as Congress can articulate a legislative purpose, they meet the legal standard

Not according to Harvard law Professor and Hillary voter Alan Dershowitz. The law clearly protects non indicted individuals. And thank God it does.

altair1013 · 2019-04-19T18:24:27.937Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Judges are generally hesitant to rule on the merits of a congressional inquiry. It’s a separation of powers issue.

Which is weird, because they feel no such hesitation regarding the executive branch.

BlueTex · 2019-04-19T18:30:24.114Z

altair1013:

Not according to Harvard law Professor and Hillary voter Alan Dershowitz. The law clearly protects non indicted individuals. And thank God it does.

Dershowitz said that about 26 USC 6103 and congressional committee access?

altair1013 · 2019-04-19T18:33:40.144Z

BlueTex:

Dershowitz said that about 26 USC 6103 and congressional committee access?

He has 5 minute video from FNC. It’s probably better that you watch it than me explain it.

BlueTex · 2019-04-19T18:34:02.177Z

altair1013:

He has 5 minute video from FNC. It’s probably better that you watch it than me explain it.

Please post a link…

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-04-19T18:34:24.433Z

I did some quick googling, and can’t find any comments by Dershowitz relating to Trump’s taxes.

BlueTex · 2019-04-19T18:35:52.265Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

I did some quick googling, and can’t find any comments by Dershowitz relating to Trump’s taxes.

I think he is confusing different inquiries…

altair1013 · 2019-04-19T18:48:24.336Z

BlueTex:

I think he is confusing different inquiries…

Maaaaay-bee.

komobu · 2019-04-19T18:53:29.640Z

For all or for one?

Vigilante · 2019-04-19T19:01:20.012Z

Trump is going to be mired with lawsuits until the day he dies

altair1013 · 2019-04-19T23:31:26.348Z

Vigilante:

Trump is going to be mired with lawsuits until the day he dies

Don’t care. As long as he keeps up the excellent work as president.

komobu · 2019-04-20T00:02:31.892Z

You didnt answer so I will try again. I am asking you a question on your understanding of the link you posted. Do you see that ruling being for all citizens? or just a case by case basis for whoever the party in charge want to see?

If this pertains to every tax filer, than one freedom of information request from someone like me ought to get me the complete return on whoever I request it for. That is scary.

If it is only for the congress, than are you ok with the party in power, say Harry Reid, requesting the tax filings on whoever his political opponent is and publishing them? I am not OK with that. It is crazy power you are giving to both parties and I dont trust either one of them with it.

MidwestIndy · 2019-04-20T00:03:23.040Z

DougBH:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

I’m not sure who is more afraid of Donald Trump’s taxes being seen by House Oversight. Donald Trump himself or Donald Trump voters.

Maybe it’s because deep down Donald Trump’s voters know he’s crooked and if his taxes or finances are investigated they will look like idiots for voting for him. Maybe a pride thing?

Maybe its the principle of privacy and over reaching government powers invading privacy for political purposes.

So you mean personal consentual sexual acts arent a matter of privacy?

BlueTex · 2019-04-20T00:05:20.970Z

komobu:

You didnt answer so I will try again. I am asking you a question on your understanding of the link you posted. Do you see that ruling being for all citizens? or just a case by case basis for whoever the party in charge want to see?

If this pertains to every tax filer, than one freedom of information request from someone like me ought to get me the complete return on whoever I request it for. That is scary.

If it is only for the congress, than are you ok with the party in p ower, say Harry Reid, requesting the tax filings on whoever his political opponent is and publishing them? I am not OK with that. It is crazy power you are giving to both parties and I dont trust either one of them with it.

I didn’t answer because it’s clear you have no idea of the law or the precedence for the law… The house ways and means committee can request one tax return or thousands… The law makes no distinction… Privacy of tax information is a relatively recent change to tax laws… Sorry you are unaware of the history…

Bodecea · 2019-04-20T02:30:09.881Z

zantax:

The President is not an employee of the government, try again.

Yes he is.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-04-20T03:50:38.574Z

You didn’t read the opinion.

Ben_Natuf · 2019-04-20T05:38:57.917Z

that would be a violation of the law.

Vigilante · 2019-04-20T07:35:55.828Z

altair1013:

Vigilante:

Trump is going to be mired with lawsuits until the day he dies

Don’t care. As long as he keeps up the excellent work as president.

Wasnt declared to inspire your caring. It was just posted to show how pathetic he is

zantax · 2019-04-20T10:55:44.397Z

No, he isn’t.

LII / Legal Information Institute

5 U.S. Code § 2105 - Employee

(a) For the purpose of this title, “employee”, except as otherwise provided by this section or when specifically modified, means an officer and an individual who is—

(1) appointed in the civil service by one of the following acting in an official capacity—

(A)

the President;

(B)

a Member or Members of Congress, or the Congress;

(C)

a member of a uniformed service;

(D)

an individual who is an employee under this section;

(E)

the head of a Government controlled corporation; or

(F)

an adjutant general designated by the Secretary concerned under section 709(c) of title 32;

(2)

engaged in the performance of a Federal function under authority of law or an Executive act; and

(3)

subject to the supervision of an individual named by paragraph (1) of this subsection while engaged in the performance of the duties of his position.