Do you trust The Whitehouse and big tech to control "disinformation?"

[Tguns]

@Jezcoe

So even in a legal matter, a private company has the ability to resist.

An administration pointing out disinfo is not a first amendment violation

Sure, a private company can resist, regardless the government demanding something beyond the scope of it’s power IS a violation.

[Jezcoe]

@Tguns

@Jezcoe

So even in a legal matter, a private company has the ability to resist.

An administration pointing out disinfo is not a first amendment violation

Sure, a private company can resist, regardless the government demanding something beyond the scope of it’s power IS a violation.

The government requests that I don’t smoke.

That is not a violation.

[Tguns]

The government has the authority to restrict you from smoking in certain areas…so no, it’s not a violation.

How about the government requesting you not to worship or pray to the diety of your choosing or simply requesting you worship a specific one?

[Jezcoe]

@Tguns

The government has the authority to restrict you from smoking in certain areas…so no, it’s not a violation.

They ran ads saying I shouldn’t smoke. I could either take their advice or not.

@Tguns

How about the government requesting you not to worship or pray to the diety of your choosing or simply requesting you worship a specific one?

I know that we have to go to extremes to make a point… but let us keep in the realm of what is actually happening.

The Government is responding to disinformation around a public health issue.

Before the hyper partisan era, this would not have been seen as a problem… but since we live in hell, it has to be exploited to tingle that fear part of the lizard brain for the culture war.

[Kelby]

@Rurudyne

1+1=2 is apparently (by some progressive “educational” opinions) white supremacy unless the class can reach that decision by consensus.

Think of it as taking the problem of Incompleteness in Mathematics back to preschool.

Huh…?

[Tguns]

@Jezcoe

They ran ads saying I shouldn’t smoke. I could either take their advice or not.

Advise, even suggest…sure. hell, government can outright proclaim “thou shall not smoke upon the flying aluminum tube”.

@Jezcoe

I know that we have to go to extremes to make a point… but let us keep in the realm of what is actually happening.

Nothing extreme about it, just a simple request.

@Jezcoe

The Government is responding to disinformation around a public health issue.

Before the hyper partisan era, this would not have been seen as a problem… but since we live in hell, it has to be exploited to tingle that fear part of the lizard brain for the culture war.

Again, the government is well within its authority to offer rebuttal to disinformation. It’s when the government starts requesting or demanding to silence it, that is stepping beyond its authority
And I don’t care if it’s Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden making the request or demand…it’s a step too far for my taste.

[Rurudyne]

CRT-ized math classes (in the news in recent months) for elementary aged kids IIRC that sought to find answers by things like consensus, rather than individuals being good at math for their age. Of course exactly WHAT they were doing is up for grabs because the “educators” in that instance apparently hail from the “You want bonkers? Here, hold my beer.” end of things in the culture wars.

[Jezcoe]

@Tguns

@Jezcoe

They ran ads saying I shouldn’t smoke. I could either take their advice or not.

Advise, even suggest…sure. hell, government can outright proclaim “thou shall not smoke upon the flying aluminum tube”.

@Jezcoe

I know that we have to go to extremes to make a point… but let us keep in the realm of what is actually happening.

Nothing extreme about it, just a simple request.

@Jezcoe

The Government is responding to disinformation around a public health issue.

Before the hyper partisan era, this would not have been seen as a problem… but since we live in hell, it has to be exploited to tingle that fear part of the lizard brain for the culture war.

Again, the government is well within its authority to offer rebuttal to disinformation. It’s when the government starts requesting or demanding to silence it, that is stepping beyond its authority
And I don’t care if it’s Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden making the request or demand…it’s a step too far for my taste.

I guess this is where you and will just not agree.

I don’t see a request as tyrannical.

It would be like requesting a wrong newspaper article be corrected or retracted.

[Tguns]

Tyrannical? No. A step too far? Yes.
Again, it’s not just Biden, no administration should be stepping this far out.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@Tguns

Where it would be clearly over the line is requesting to silence the disinformation.

A private company is under no obligation to comply.

Not a first amendment issue.

Again, see precedent on censorship by proxy, if the government asks, encourages, suggests or demands it be done, they become a state actor and the first is applicable.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@zantax

Most of the leftist shills pretending government directing private business to censor isn’t a violation of the first amendment have little to no grasp of the relevant legal precedent that clearly says those private businesses become state actors when they do.

What precedent are you referring to?

Citation, please.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@zantax

Again, see precedent on censorship by proxy, if the government asks, encourages, suggests or demands it be done, they become a state actor and the first is applicable.

“Censorship by proxy” is the title of that Law Review article you posted, isn’t it?

Because it’s definitely not a understood legal term.

[RTchoke]

@Kelby

@Conservative_frk

But not every doctor agrees with every doctor.

Shouldn’t I be able to decide what information I deem misinformation?

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

If you want to believe 1 + 1 = 3 yes, that is your right.

There are no longer any correct answers in math. Requiring a correct answer is now racist and white supremacy.

Equitable Math.

1=1+3 is now correct in the liberal world.

[RTchoke]

@Kelby

@Rurudyne

1+1=2 is apparently (by some progressive “educational” opinions) white supremacy unless the class can reach that decision by consensus.

Think of it as taking the problem of Incompleteness in Mathematics back to preschool.

Huh…?

Again Bill Gates has his hands in things. He gets away with a lot of ■■■■ for someone not elected to any office.

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[Bigjohn]

Wouldn’t trust any Whitehouse to run a bath I mean look at the ass clowns we have had in the white house the past12 years

[wiley8425]

12. 32. Who’s counting at this point, really?

[zantax]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@zantax

Most of the leftist shills pretending government directing private business to censor isn’t a violation of the first amendment have little to no grasp of the relevant legal precedent that clearly says those private businesses become state actors when they do.

What precedent are you referring to?

Citation, please.

You can find numerous precedent cited in the following article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-can-win-his-case-against-tech-giants-11626025357

The Supreme Court held in Norwood v. Harrison (1973) that the government “may not induce, encourage, or promote private persons to accomplish what it is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish.”

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Norwood v. Harrison was a Supreme Court case about public funding for a private school that wouldn’t admit black people. It has nothing to do with “censorship by proxy”.

I won’t pay for the WSJ, so I can’t read your article. Why don’t you just provide the legal citations to support your claim?

[thinkingman]

@Sknyluv

I typically get my medical advice from my great aunt’s Facebook posts. That’s who I trust the most.

dear lord will govt please quickly intervene and tell this poster not to trust that?!?!

the more federal the better

[RTchoke]

@thinkingman

@Sknyluv

I typically get my medical advice from my great aunt’s Facebook posts. That’s who I trust the most.

dear lord will govt please quickly intervene and tell this poster not to trust that?!?!

the more federal the better

Probably not one of the Insidious 12 that the admin has their eye on. But it’s not political mind you.