so what will happen with the debt?

The size of the budget and deficit

Actually the OP questions the counter cyclicality of government.

What does the government have to do with getting food?

Most corporations don’t have effective unlimited real capital.

Most corporations aren’t running balance of trade deficits.

If it’s about staffing and budgets, then everything about federal, state and local government is smaller, except that which involves police and military powers. But, does that really accurately describe a reduction in leviathan power?

Perhaps a ā€˜larger’ state, but organized toward the commonweal and health, would have less of a leviathan effect.

After the disastrous 2016 election, I heartily agree.

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What do taxes have to do with food?

What kind of control?

Subsidies. Currencies, full faith and credit. Roads, irrigation, inspection. Weights snd measures. Courts, patents; adjudication of disputes, ownership and land rights. Et cetera.

Yeah, all those votes wasted on Hillary…

Disaster for one person is another’s fortune. :wink:

So nothing. Might want to look at what is happening in the fields.

Roads and irrigation? Fine job of maintaining that infrastructure.

Well obviously we use the word ā€˜nothing’ differently, as a matter of both syntax and semantic content.

You are confusing legalism with being fed. Most of the stuff on your list is only ā€œnecessaryā€ because of government, not government being necessary because of the need.

We apparently use the sequence of phonemes,
Nɛ sÉ™ĖŒ sɛ ɹi, to produce different meanings.

How will you PAY for the food? Most people don’t have gold and silver or bitcoin laying around.

We need to get our debt loads under control to match the spending we have been doing. The only way to do that now is to raise taxes. DON’T ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT SPENDING. You guys had your chance to cut spending and you pissed it away in 2017.

With money. Money that the government forces us to use. Sometimes I pay for somethings with barter.

What money? The federal reserve note after the federal government is insolvent? What would it be worth? 356,000,000 people can’t barter their way in an economy.

It will be worth whatever the seller says it’s worth.

Why not?

With a big assed scale. I mean the size of Jupiter.