Do public accommodation laws violate the 13th Amendment?

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Do public accomodation laws violate the 13th Amendment?

13th Amendment
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

What is involuntary servitude?
Definition-A person laboring against that person’s will to benefit another, under some form of coercion other than the worker’s financial needs. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.

The 13th Amendment not only abolished slavery but it also abolished involuntary servitude.

If a law requires a baker to bake a gay wedding cake against his will, how is that not involuntary servitude?

I won’t list all of the “must serve laws” that would also fall under this.

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“Nobody is forcing them to be bakers”

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Doesn’t matter. They chose to be bakers. The laws require them to do certain baking jobs they don’t want to do.

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“So it’s not involuntary. They had a choice.”

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No, end of story.

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:rofl:

Because you said so?

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A choice about the line of work.
Say you chose to mow yards. A person wants you to mow one with foot high grass full of snakes. You don’t want to, but there is some law that requires you do it. That is involuntray servitude.

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“They can choose another line of work.”

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If they want to accommodate the public, they must abide by public accommodation laws. If they don’t want to abide by those laws, they can serve their goods privately. They also have to abide by zoning laws, sanitation regulations, employment standards, etc. These are all things they agree to when opening up a business to the public. It’s absolutely stupid to bring up the 13th within this context.

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Irrelevant.

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What if there was a law that said you had to work for free. Involuntary servitude!

Making up fictitious laws doesn’t really make your point.

And voluntarily working kind of invalidates the involuntary servitude assertion. And by “kind of”, I mean completely.

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You have a choice not to mow yards. How many more dumb examples are you going to come up with? And why are you struggling with the definition of involuntary?

Let me help you. Your heart beats involuntarily, you can’t actively choose to make it start and stop.
When you “CHOOSE” a line of work you are doing so voluntarily, therefore the premise of your op is both ignorant and misinformed.

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What? LMAO.

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Told you Bill.

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Man you really don’t like gay people.

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No. They don’t.

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Let me help you.
Laws that require one to perform a task one does not want to perform constitute involuntary servitude.

Courts have exempted “enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc.”
Baking a particular kind of cake have not been exempted.

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I don’t want to pay taxes, shall I file a court case with the premise that is involuntary servitude to perform the task of paying my taxes? Lets see how well that goes over. This thread is wrong in both it’s premise and its assertion, and this most recent post of yours is even more silly than the first one.

Beat this phrase into your brain … CHOICE, CHOICE, CHOICE. Your punishment is write this word on the blackboard 300 times… CHOICE.

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How well “it goes over” is not an indicator of right or wrong when discussing Centgov.

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For me it’s about not having the government tell me what I have to do in my own place.

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