Do Democrats Support Freedom for Cuba?

SixFoot · 2022-02-20T01:03:32.659Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

My point: I’ve been here a long time, and you guys are forever posting dire predictions of Tyranny that never seems to materialize.

I’m pretty stoned, so I forgot to mention that I’m not, “you guys.”

I want a world of civilized violence. Always have. It’s been a winning factor in my life long before I joined the Army.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T01:21:37.782Z

WuWei:

You can ignore the authoritarianism in your so-called “liberal democracies” if you want to, but you can’t deny it.

Sure. But it is also a spectrum, and Cuba is much further along the track to Tyranny than Canada is. That is simply self evident fact.

WuWei:

First of all, check your tone. You don’t get to send me or anybody else away.

Yup, here you are. Again. Turns out that maybe that was more of a colloquialism.

WuWei:

Canada is no more a “liberal democracy” than the US, yet you seem to have no problem believing the Trump administration was disappearing protestors off the streets just two short years ago.

They were. I don’t have problems believing it. Point and purpose?

WuWei · 2022-02-20T01:23:14.606Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Sure. But it is also a spectrum, and Cuba is much further along the track to Tyranny than Canada is. That is simply self evident fact.

Now we can have a conversation, I will agree with the stipulation that it the same track.

Supreme_War_Pig:

They were . I don’t have problems believing it. Point and purpose?

Then on what basis do you dismiss the possibility in Canada?

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T01:23:18.878Z

SixFoot:

I’m pretty stoned, so I forgot to mention that I’m not, “you guys.”

Okay.

SixFoot:

The key to fascist/communist takeovers, ladies and gentlemen. Time-honored

Let’s see what happens.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T01:24:19.959Z

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Sure. But it is also a spectrum, and Cuba is much further along the track to Tyranny than Canada is. That is simply self evident fact.

Mo we can have a conversation, I will agree with the stipulation that it the same track.

Supreme_War_Pig:

They were . I don’t have problems believing it. Point and purpose?

Then on what basis do you dismiss the possibility in Canada?

What is Mo.

WuWei · 2022-02-20T01:24:45.505Z

A typo.

SixFoot · 2022-02-20T01:29:04.335Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

SixFoot:

The key to fascist/communist takeovers, ladies and gentlemen. Time-honored

Let’s see what happens.

In 50 more years, right? You’ll probably have to send me a dm on Truth Social by then. lol

But in case you missed the point earlier, the key to any ideological takeover is incremental, little bits at a time.

By the time you average citizen types with your “get back to me in 50 years” reasoning limits ever think enough is enough, it’s always too late, and then it’s a big emotional tragedy that no one else in the world can understand how y’all let it happen, because it all started with you, the voter.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T01:46:36.747Z

Okay, thanks.

WuWei:

Then on what basis do you dismiss the possibility in Canada?

I have not, not have I ever dismissed the possibility.

I am just saying that to compare the two, given their current positions on the spectrum is absurd.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T01:47:51.352Z

In other words, you are wishcasting.

Look around: we are knee deep in failed predictions

SixFoot · 2022-02-20T01:50:01.303Z

Oddly enough, every single one of my predictions 2 years ago have already come true. Enjoy more of those Quagmires with No End in Sight that you used to (R)ail against (yes, I actually remember).

Samm · 2022-02-20T02:25:14.202Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Apologies.

Canada does not have murder squads, torture rooms, and complete control of the media.

You simply can’t compare Cuba to Canada with any credibility.

Are you saying the Cubans do? And we ignored it?

How do you know what the Canadian government does or does not have?

Don’t be ridiculous. Canada is a liberal democracy, Cuba is a tyranny. To imply that one is becoming another due to mask and vax mandates is absurd.

When you make a statement like that, first someone ought to have implied what you say was implied. Nobody has.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2022-02-20T02:30:12.379Z

biggestal99:

NJBob:

“We stand with the Cuban people and their clarion call for freedom and relief from the tragic grip of the pandemic and from the decades of repression and economic suffering to which they have been subjected by Cuba’s authoritarian regime.”

Echos my thoughts perfectly.

Allan

…but not your vote. You vote for people who wanted to legitimize Castro and his ideology.

WuWei · 2022-02-20T04:35:21.427Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Okay, thanks.

WuWei:

Then on what basis do you dismiss the possibility in Canada?

I have not, not have I ever dismissed the possibility.

I am just saying that to compare the two, given their current positions on the spectrum is absurd.

I disagree. It is merely a difference of degree.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T04:41:40.284Z

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Apologies.

Canada does not have murder squads, torture rooms, and complete control of the media.

You simply can’t compare Cuba to Canada with any credibility.

Are you saying the Cubans do? And we ignored it?

How do you know what the Canadian government does or does not have?

Don’t be ridiculous. Canada is a liberal democracy, Cuba is a tyranny. To imply that one is becoming another due to mask and vax mandates is absurd.

When you make a statement like that, first someone ought to have implied what you say was implied. Nobody has.

Well then, you haven’t been paying attention. Not to this thread, and certainly not to this forum.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T04:45:27.217Z

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Okay, thanks.

WuWei:

Then on what basis do you dismiss the possibility in Canada?

I have not, not have I ever dismissed the possibility.

I am just saying that to compare the two, given their current positions on the spectrum is absurd.

I disagree. It is merely a difference of degree.

That is just nonsense. But okay then.

In a world where Canada is just as bad as Cuba, you and I have nothing to discuss.

WuWei · 2022-02-20T04:49:16.220Z

I would say Canada is worse.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T04:53:01.370Z

WuWei:

I would say Canada is worse.

Don’t be daft.

Evacuation of US Embassy in Ukraine

Fascists are our allies?

Don’t be daft.

WuWei · 2022-02-20T04:54:28.671Z

Canada let the citizens believe they are free.

Cubans are under no such delusions.

It’s the cruelty.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-02-20T05:02:58.627Z

WuWei:

Canada let the citizens believe they are free.

Cubans are under no such delusions.

It’s the cruelty.

…

Supreme_War_Pig:

That is just nonsense. But okay then.

In a world where Canada is just as bad as Cuba, you and I have nothing to discuss.

Samm · 2022-02-20T05:29:43.492Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Apologies.

Canada does not have murder squads, torture rooms, and complete control of the media.

You simply can’t compare Cuba to Canada with any credibility.

Are you saying the Cubans do? And we ignored it?

How do you know what the Canadian government does or does not have?

Don’t be ridiculous. Canada is a liberal democracy, Cuba is a tyranny. To imply that one is becoming another due to mask and vax mandates is absurd.

When you make a statement like that, first someone ought to have implied what you say was implied. Nobody has.

Well then, you haven’t been paying attention. Not to this thread, and certainly not to this forum.

I have been paying attention. Nobody has said that Canada is becoming Cuba. What they have said is that Canada … specifically Trudeau … is behaving tyrannically.