Personally I have no more belief that President Trump would disparage veterans then I would that President Trump would disparage women by bragging that he was free to grab them by the private parts.
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When a man shows you who they are through their words and their actions, it is best to believe them. Trump has shown the world who he is, repeatedly. I believe he is the man who he has shown us he is. An animal. A monster. A ■■■■■■■ psychopath.

Remember when people used to say " I dont agree with this politicians positions and will vote against him."?
Actually, neither do I.

Sounds like he was borrowing that from Eisenhower.
Military industrial complex anyone?

This is not about political positions. This is about something far more important and deeper for me. This is a battle for the soul of our nation. Are we Donald Trump’s version of America? Or are we something brighter and better? I still believe we have it in us to show we are more than what his cancer has wrought upon us. 55 more days and we shall see if my hope is realized.

wow. ok

his actions show his respect for fallen soldiers by far. you’re just ignoring all of it due to the rage you display here

it’s sad

to add, it is easy to envision people in the media who think like this too such as at the Atlantic, creating these kind of nonsense reports

Trump has been the absolute opposite of Eisenhower when it comes to the MIC that Ike warned us about.

See my post to @Smyrna

That sums the whole thing up nicely.

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thanks i thought so too!

Calling those who fought (and died) in Vietnam “suckers” is about the most respect Trump has been capable of mustering for the troops.

I believe Fox News’ reporting on this issue. Jennifer Griffin says her sources are not only unimpeachable, but that they are also known to Trump himself.

you believe anonymous people, who prob have political axes to grind (incl griffin)

but you ignore. dismiss and disparage everything trump has ACTUALLY DONE (and said) for vets troops etc. long before political aspirations.

thats…fanatical. sorry

Dan Rather said about the same thing.

About half the folks at Fox are never Trumpers including probably griffin.

There’s nothing but anonymous or imaginary people making these charges.

I get that Trump and McCain didn’t get along but that was one individual not the entire military.

I respected McCain’s military service but did not respect his political service. Mixed bag there.

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And this will be the excused used if the anonymous sources reveal themselves “never Trumpers” “disgruntled employees”

He may not have actually done any of that. He has advisors that can make politically calculated suggestions to Trump, even if he doesn’t believe it or like it.

His actual words, from his own mouth, on tape and twitter… I exactly what is coming from HIM.

And I answered you. You ignored it. TDS can have that effect on some.

Called it :rofl:

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I didn’t ignore it, I read it. I still think it’s ridiculous but hey… TDS has that affect on people.

How anyone with a straight face can say Trump trashing People and military service… is mind blowing.

Is there any treatment or cure for TDS? Asking for a friend. :grin:

Everyone should read it… It is showing why Trump comparing himself to Eisenhower is reaching peak stupid.

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I believe Trump’s own words disparaging the military and its members. From John McCain to Jim Mattis to John Kelly to his Generals to the Gold Star families.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-under-fire-for-alleged-comments-about-veterans-has-a-long-history-of-disparaging-military-service/2020/09/06/76aba4b8-f053-11ea-9279-45d6bdfe145f_story.html

Trump, under fire for alleged comments about veterans, has a long history of disparaging military service

As Donald Trump laid the groundwork in 1999 to run for president as the Reform Party candidate, he made a little-remembered attack on the person he saw as a rival in a possible general election campaign: Republican John McCain.

Many considered McCain a war hero for surviving five years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, and a television interviewer asked why Trump felt he was more qualified to be commander in chief.

“Does being captured make you a hero? I don’t know. I’m not sure,” Trump said in the CBS interview.

As Trump watched the 2016 Democratic National Convention, he became infuriated at a speech by Khizr Khan, whose son, Army Capt. Humayun Khan, was killed in a 2004 car bombing in Iraq. After Khizr Khan said Trump had “sacrificed nothing” for his country and had smeared Muslims, Trump seemed to compare the death of a soldier to his financial achievements.

“I’ve made a lot of sacrifices,” Trump said. “I work very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I’ve had tremendous success.”

Trump has had a series of fights with the generals he put in power, some of whom left in anger and dismay. In a 2017 meeting at the Pentagon, he called his top generals “losers” and “a bunch of dopes and babies.”

Mattis said earlier this year that “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us.” In response, Trump, who had once lavished praise on Mattis, tweeted: “I didn’t like his ‘leadership’ style or much else about him. . . . Glad he is gone!”

In July 2016, Trump took aim at retired four-star General John Allen. “You know who he is? He’s a failed general. He was the general fighting ISIS. I would say he hasn’t done so well, right?” Trump said, according to Politico.

In July 2016, Trump attacked the family of Capt. Humayun Khan, a slain soldier, dismissing a speech his father Khizr Khan made, because he said Khan’s mother hadn’t been allowed to speak.

In October 2017, Trump forgot the name of slain US army Sgt. La David Johnson, while he was on the phone with his widow. Johnson was killed in an ambush in Niger while in active service. Myeshia Johnson said the call with Trump made her cry, and that Trump told her that her husband “knew what he had signed up for.”

In November 2018, Fox News’ Chris Wallace asked Trump about his thoughts on retired Admiral William McRaven, a former Navy Seal who was behind the mission that killed Osama Bin Laden. He interrupted Wallace and said, “Hilary Clinton Fan.” When Wallace continued, Trump did, too. “Excuse me: Hilary. Clinton. Fan.”

Trump went on to repeat that McRaven supported Clinton — which he hadn’t — as well as former President Barack Obama, and said, “Frankly, wouldn’t it have been nice if we got Osama bin Laden a lot sooner than that?”

Trump’s attacks on McRaven were in response to an opinion piece McRaven wrote for the Washington Post, telling him to revoke his security clearance, after Trump had revoked former CIA director John Brennan’s clearance.

McRaven wrote, “I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.”

In October 2019, McRaven said the US is “under attack from the president” after Trump pulled US troops out of Syria, allowing Turkish-backed militants to wage assaults against the once US-backed Kurdish militia.

In January 2019, Trump said retired four-star General Stanley McChrystal, who led US forces in Afghanistan between 2009 and 2010, was fired by former President Barack Obama “like a dog.” He also said his final assignment was a total bust, that he was a Hilary Clinton lover, and he was known for his “big dumb mouth.”

Trump’s attack was in response to McCrystal saying he wouldn’t work for Trump’s administration, because he didn’t think Trump told the truth.

In August 2019, Trump told Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton, who served as a marine in Iraq, “You remain a frickin’ coward” when Moulton dropped out of the race to be the next Democrat presidential candidate.

Moulton was awarded a Bronze Star and a Navy and Marine Corps Commendation medal, Business Insider’s David Choi reported. The awards cited his fearlessness for when he exposed himself to fire to help four of his marines who were wounded.

In October 2019, Trump called his former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, a retired four-star general, “the world’s most overrated general,” after also saying Mattis wasn’t tough enough.

The comments were made during a meeting with lawmakers who were assessing what the US should do about the Syria-Turkey conflict. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer repeated what Mattis had previously said about needing to keep pressure on the area to stop ISIS from resurging, and it was then that Trump cut him off, and said Mattis was overrated. He also said he was better at the job than Mattis.

In October 2019, John Kelly, Trump’s former White House chief of staff, told a live audience that he’d told Trump not to hire a “yes man,” because if he did, he would get impeached. When Trump heard about it, he said, “John Kelly never said that, he never said anything like that. If he would have said that I would have thrown him out of the office. He just wants to come back into the action like everybody else does.”

In October 2019, Trump called Bill Taylor, the US’s chief envoy to Ukraine, who was a witness in Trump’s impeachment inquiry, and who had given evidence against him, a “Never Trumper.” He went on to say, “Never Trumpers” were “human scum.”

Taylor served as an Army infantry officer for six years, and completed two tours of Vietnam.

I could continue on and on and on and on. But yes, I am the fanatical one here. :+1: