JayJay
3237
Thank you for admitting your complaints about Hunter and Joe Biden are driven solely by your resentment.
tnt
3238
Itâs really not that at all. Itâs this particular law, which is vague and ripe to be used to marginalize LGBTQ community members.
I totally support âno sex ed k-???i donât know what the right grade is to startâŚ6? 7? not 3âŚâ
But thatâs not what this law is.
JayJay
3239
No matter how many times this is repeated, the argument will be cycled back to this misdirection.
I donât know where RW parents think teachers are going to come from if they keep supporting legislation that allows them to be attacked like this.
New teacher certifications are already at a record low because more and more itâs not worth it even without all this new crap.
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tnt
3240
Because the base reaction that leads to support for this vague bill designed to allow political allies to sell books to FL is âif itâs against the freaks, Iâm for it!â and the fear of being perceived as âfriendly to the freaksâ in their ideological team circles is just far to great to consider the actual legislation and the effects there of, to stray from full throated support.
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Guntsu
3241
This new law will backfire, Desantis own example of why this law is needed was based on a lie.
The parent requested special accommodations for their trans child not the other way around.
Conservatives want the right to discriminate we have been here many times before with the ebb and flow of laws designed to do just that but in the end they lose.
This time will be no different
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JayJay
3242
There are definitely teachers left and right that bring their politics into the schools.
I agree there are some of the liberal states or schools that are pushing the sex Ed part way earlier than it needs to be pushed. To have regulations and standards governing that are perfectly reasonable.
To pass a law that gives parents the power to bitch about practically anything to do with LGBTQ or race and call it âsexual indoctrinationâ or âCRTââŚeven if there is a âMarshallâ that makes the final decisionâŚis not this. It is political activism from the right wing, in schools, pure and simple.
Because its real goalâŚas borne out by actual behaviorsâŚis to freeze out ANY and all of thisâŚeven the mere mention of LGTBQ or race in passingâŚin an attempt to marginalize.
And the proponents of laws like thisâŚwhen you listen to the very words out of their mouthsâŚADMIT this is what they are doing.
conan
3243
I donât think resentment means what you think it means. 
JayJay
3244
Iâm using the definition you provided here. A money trail from the right wing culture wars to the pockets of those politicians who are driving the culture wars was outlined and posted here. You called that an example of âresentmentâ.
So Iâm simply using another example that is analogous to the one posted in this thread.
Come on nowâŚbuild another elaborate layer of defensive fortifications protecting your belief system and deflect!
Take your timeâŚIâll wait.
JayJay
3246

conan:
Where?
Look back through your posts. You responded to one of them with your âresentmentâ reply.
I wonât help you deflect. Youâre on your own for that.
komobu
3247
Florida House just stripped Disney of their special governing status. What do you think the chances are that Desantis will sign it into to law?
If I was a shareholder I would be mad as hell. They get involved in politics instead of their business, and it costs them. Congrats Disney!
Susposedly this status is worth 10s of millions of dollars per year!
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RTchoke
3248

JayJay:

RTchoke:
The problem isnât the ban.
Itâs whatâs being targetedâŚwhich is any discussion, at all, which even acknowledges that LGBTQ exist, and thatâs OK.
The parental provision pretty much guarantees such things will be frozen out.
Weâve already seen it. A teacher in Ohio mentions to his class about his wedding to his husbandâŚjust mentioned itâŚand parents are up in arms demanding he be fired.
You think that wonât happen in Florida? Especially now that the law practically demands they do it?
Think again.
Hereâs a clue. Those kids do not belong to the school. . Libs forget kids belong to the parents, not the school.
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JayJay
3249

komobu:
Florida House just stripped Disney of their special governing status. What do you think the chances are that Desantis will sign it into to law?
If I was a shareholder I would be mad as hell. They get involved in politics instead of their business, and it costs them. Congrats Disney!
Florida House passes bill stripping Disney of self governing status | Fox News
Susposedly this status is worth 10s of millions of dollars per year!
You are completely misunderstanding the power dynamic at work here.
But as long as Desantis âsticks it to Wokenessâ, screw the Florida taxpayer, eh?
Thatâs your main problem. You see their identity as politics. They donât.
They are speaking on behalf of the marginalized
komobu
3251

JayJay:
You are completely misunderstanding the power dynamic at work here.
But as long as Desantis âsticks it to Wokenessâ, screw the Florida taxpayer, eh?
Disney has been sticking it to the taxpayer for the last 50 years.
How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to? Just Disney because they are woke?
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JayJay
3252
Disney has done no such thing. They are one of the main reasons Florida is such a cheap destination for retirees. The development that has gone on in Orange and Osceola Counties has brought â â â â â â â â â of revenue into Florida, not the reverse.
I have no feelings one way or the other about Disneyâs special status. Iâm talking about the power dynamic.
Disney got the special status because back in the 1960s, Florida needed Disney more than Disney needed Florida.
The past 60 years have only caused that entwinement to favor Disney even more.
Decoupling is going to be very painful for Florida residents. Oh- it will impact Disney as well for sure, but far less than the average Floridian will be impacted.
But hey- if Floridaâs culture war principles say Florida must decouple, by all means decouple. No skin off my nose.
Iâll predict whatâs going to happen though. The first squawks have already been comingâŚfrom residents of Osceola and Orange Counties, who have produced a statute they claim does not allow the legislature to unilaterally remove Disneyâs special status. To do that, they say, will require a vote from the countiesâ residents.
So the resistance will not come from Disney, but Florida residents.
But Fighting Against Wokeness is worth the cost, eh?
JayJay
3253
Some likely impacts.
Two counties in Florida will have to scale up regulatory and safety infrastructure within a year. Iâm sure the residents of Osceola and Orange County are going to be thrilled to be paying to burnish Desantisâ culture war credentials.
tnt
3254
No they havenât.
This reversal is going to cost the area property owners an extra $2,200 a year.
The only thing itâs going to cost Disney is, the quality of their experience is going to go down becuase they will be depending on the area municipalities to maintain the roads and services.
Scratch
3255
Iâm sure you have no problem with the tax breaks big oil getsâŚ
JayJay
3256

tnt:
No they havenât.
This reversal is going to cost the area property owners an extra $2,200 a year.
The only thing itâs going to cost Disney is, the quality of their experience is going to go down becuase they will be depending on the area municipalities to maintain the roads and services.
I want Desantis to go through with this.
Stupid needs to start hurting the actual stupid people.
Unfortunately since it wonât happen until 2023, my guess is some negotiated settlement which leaves things essentially as they are will happenâŚand Desantis will claim victory sometime in 2023 right as he kicks off his Presidential run.
Nothing will have changed, but he will claim he stuck it to Woke Disney.