Desantis Protect Parental Rights in Education

[STODR]

@tnt

@STODR

Probably equal to the people against it because they want to teach children about homosexual sex.

Who has advocated for teaching young kids about any sex at all?

Desantis Protect Parental Rights in Education

I think it’s a stunt to excite the base. So you agree with the states proposing sex Ed start in kindergarten? Or universities advocating for it?

Another circle back by TNT thinking we won’t remember.

[tnt]

@STODR

Another circle back by TNT thinking we won’t remember.

This is what I said to you then:

@tnt

We’re discussing FL, where it isn’t on the curriculum until grade 6. What these other states are doing, and what I think about it is moot to the discussion at hand.

Happy to discuss it though in another thread.

So…I never said I was for sex ed in k-3.

Glad we could clear that up.

[PeterGriffin]

Same exact people. Another manufactured moral panic that is more a confession if we’re to look at where all the grooming and other colorful sexual antics are from the Groomers Old Perverts party.

[STODR]

@tnt

@STODR

Another circle back by TNT thinking we won’t remember.

This is what I said to you then:

@tnt

We’re discussing FL, where it isn’t on the curriculum until grade 6. What these other states are doing, and what I think about it is moot to the discussion at hand.

Happy to discuss it though in another thread.

So…I never said I was for sex ed in k-3.

Glad we could clear that up.

You also said it was not allowed until 6th grade. A lie. You claim it is not being taught before that, yet you can provide zero proof. I provided proof it is happening in other places.

Quit lying you asked who is advocating for it I answered it again.

@tnt

Who has advocated for teaching young kids about any sex at all?

[WuWei]

Adults in positions of power cannot be trusted on this topic with other people’s kids?

I agree.

[WuWei]

@tnt

So…I never said I was for sex ed in k-3.

9th grade good?

[JayJay]

We are taking about Florida. What part of that don’t you get?

[STODR]

@JayJay

We are taking about Florida. What part of that don’t you get?

Go back and read the exchange and you won’t make a fool of yourself.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

It already is.

Is it?

You love to pump those post count numbers.

Yes. Holocaust bad. Slavery bad. Drugs bad. Bullying bad.

You don’t want weed legalized?

I do want weed legalized. I’m just listing moral positions that schools have taken. I’m not saying that I agree with every single one.

[GWH]

@JayJay

This is nowhere near as prevalent as you are being led to believe.

Although as we see in this thread, to some people, merely mentioning LGBTQ is a “sexual conversation”.

Which of course is ridiculous.

Talk to @PurpnGold , he’s the one that wants to allow teachers to have a conversation about sexual orientation with a 9 year old.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

I do want weed legalized. I’m just listing moral positions that schools have taken. I’m not saying that I agree with every single one.

So “drugs not bad”.

Good.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

I do want weed legalized. I’m just listing moral positions that schools have taken. I’m not saying that I agree with every single one.

So “drugs not bad”.

Good.

Still a moral judgement.

[PurpnGold]

@GWH

@JayJay

This is nowhere near as prevalent as you are being led to believe.

Although as we see in this thread, to some people, merely mentioning LGBTQ is a “sexual conversation”.

Which of course is ridiculous.

Talk to @PurpnGold , he’s the one that wants to allow teachers to have a conversation about sexual orientation with a 9 year old.

Yes, I want the teacher to be able to adhere to a parent of a transgender kid and have the teacher call her by her preferred gender pronoun.

I want the teacher to be able to tell the class that Ashley is now Adam and goes by he/him.

I DO NOT want a k-3 teacher teaching about how gay sex works… how puberty blockers work… the psychological state of their mind etc.

However under Florida law… simply respecting a parents wishes for their transgender (or gay) kid is prohibited.

[Striker840]

@tnt

@Striker840

Well I know for a fact that my grandkids at that age didn’t know, didn’t ask, were not aware of any of that.

When they ask, I will talk to them but not before.

Do they have any gay relatives?

Yes my daughter and her wife.

[JayJay]

@GWH

@JayJay

This is nowhere near as prevalent as you are being led to believe.

Although as we see in this thread, to some people, merely mentioning LGBTQ is a “sexual conversation”.

Which of course is ridiculous.

Talk to @PurpnGold , he’s the one that wants to allow teachers to have a conversation about sexual orientation with a 9 year old.

“Gender orientation”…i.e. calling kids by their preferred pronouns…is not “sexual”.

I get it that YOU may think it is…but it’s not.

[JayJay]

@Striker840

@tnt

@Striker840

Well I know for a fact that my grandkids at that age didn’t know, didn’t ask, were not aware of any of that.

When they ask, I will talk to them but not before.

Do they have any gay relatives?

Yes my daughter and her wife.

And their kids (or their nephews/nieces…you mentioned your grandkids) didn’t know they were gay?

Never met them?

[Striker840]

@tnt

@Striker840

Then maybe, just spitballing here, that oh I don’t know, let the PARENTS decide when to teach THEIR kids about such issues.

It is not the teachers place to get into this with these young kids. At that age shouldn’t the teacher be more concerned with teaching the kids how to write, read, basic math??

So I think the disconnect here is, what does ‘get into it with these young kids’ mean?

To say, for example, I (the male teacher maybe) am married to a man. Is that ‘getting into it’?

Or reading a book that features a lesbian couple - getting into it?

So the alternative is to delete them from conversation.

But the way the law is written, any discussion of orientation or gender is off limits, so really you can’t talk about your hero marriage or the gender of Mr. Smith.

The only “disconnect” here is on your side. “Ask/talk to your parents” is keeping “out” of it.

Why would a k-3 teacher be reading a book about a gay couple at all??

[GWH]

@PurpnGold

They teach the accepted cultural morality. You send your kids to public school, you have entered them into the collective of public education. Same as if you send them to a private Christian school.

I was chose to attend a catholic school high school because I was good at sports and they paid for my tuition. However I wasn’t catholic.

Should I be allowed to individually force that catholic school to not have mass every Friday, against the collective desires of the parents?

So it’s based on collective desires, you say?

Poll shows 52% of Florida Democratic voters back 'Don't Say Gay' bill

[JayJay]

@Striker840

@tnt

@Striker840

Then maybe, just spitballing here, that oh I don’t know, let the PARENTS decide when to teach THEIR kids about such issues.

It is not the teachers place to get into this with these young kids. At that age shouldn’t the teacher be more concerned with teaching the kids how to write, read, basic math??

So I think the disconnect here is, what does ‘get into it with these young kids’ mean?

To say, for example, I (the male teacher maybe) am married to a man. Is that ‘getting into it’?

Or reading a book that features a lesbian couple - getting into it?

So the alternative is to delete them from conversation.

But the way the law is written, any discussion of orientation or gender is off limits, so really you can’t talk about your hero marriage or the gender of Mr. Smith.

The only “disconnect” here is on your side. “Ask/talk to your parents” is keeping “out” of it.

Why would a k-3 teacher be reading a book about a gay couple at all??

There are many children’s books that have LGBTQ characters in them now.

You may as well ask “Why would a K-3 teacher be reading a book about a black couple” or “Why would a K-3 teacher be reading a book about a married couple who were doctors”?

[GWH]

Camels nose is in the tent. Let them be kids.