Desantis Protect Parental Rights in Education

komobu · 2022-04-21T17:52:24.007Z

JayJay:

You are completely misunderstanding the power dynamic at work here.

But as long as Desantis “sticks it to Wokeness”, screw the Florida taxpayer, eh?

Disney has been sticking it to the taxpayer for the last 50 years.

How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to? Just Disney because they are woke?

JayJay · 2022-04-21T17:59:33.515Z

komobu:

JayJay:

You are completely misunderstanding the power dynamic at work here.

But as long as Desantis “sticks it to Wokeness”, screw the Florida taxpayer, eh?

Disney has been sticking it to the taxpayer for the last 50 years.

How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to? Just Disney because they are woke?

Disney has done no such thing. They are one of the main reasons Florida is such a cheap destination for retirees. The development that has gone on in Orange and Osceola Counties has brought ■■■■■■■■■ of revenue into Florida, not the reverse.

I have no feelings one way or the other about Disney’s special status. I’m talking about the power dynamic.

Disney got the special status because back in the 1960s, Florida needed Disney more than Disney needed Florida.

The past 60 years have only caused that entwinement to favor Disney even more.

Decoupling is going to be very painful for Florida residents. Oh- it will impact Disney as well for sure, but far less than the average Floridian will be impacted.

But hey- if Florida’s culture war principles say Florida must decouple, by all means decouple. No skin off my nose.

I’ll predict what’s going to happen though. The first squawks have already been coming…from residents of Osceola and Orange Counties, who have produced a statute they claim does not allow the legislature to unilaterally remove Disney’s special status. To do that, they say, will require a vote from the counties’ residents.

So the resistance will not come from Disney, but Florida residents.

But Fighting Against Wokeness is worth the cost, eh?

JayJay · 2022-04-21T18:05:08.279Z

Some likely impacts.

Two counties in Florida will have to scale up regulatory and safety infrastructure within a year. I’m sure the residents of Osceola and Orange County are going to be thrilled to be paying to burnish Desantis’ culture war credentials.

Newsweek – 19 Apr 22

Disney Losing Governing Status In Florida Likely Won't Have Major Impact

DeSantis said he planned to dismantle the Act from 1967 that gave Disney self-governing authority.

tnt · 2022-04-21T18:08:29.586Z

komobu:

Disney has been sticking it to the taxpayer for the last 50 years.

How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to? Just Disney because they are woke?

No they haven’t.

This reversal is going to cost the area property owners an extra $2,200 a year.

The only thing it’s going to cost Disney is, the quality of their experience is going to go down becuase they will be depending on the area municipalities to maintain the roads and services.

Scratch · 2022-04-21T18:09:24.269Z

komobu:

How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to?

I’m sure you have no problem with the tax breaks big oil gets…

JayJay · 2022-04-21T18:11:25.550Z

tnt:

komobu:

Disney has been sticking it to the taxpayer for the last 50 years.

How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to? Just Disney because they are woke?

No they haven’t.

This reversal is going to cost the area property owners an extra $2,200 a year.

The only thing it’s going to cost Disney is, the quality of their experience is going to go down becuase they will be depending on the area municipalities to maintain the roads and services.

I want Desantis to go through with this.

Stupid needs to start hurting the actual stupid people.

Unfortunately since it won’t happen until 2023, my guess is some negotiated settlement which leaves things essentially as they are will happen…and Desantis will claim victory sometime in 2023 right as he kicks off his Presidential run.

Nothing will have changed, but he will claim he stuck it to Woke Disney.

tnt · 2022-04-21T18:12:17.884Z

JayJay:

I want Desantis to go through with this.

Stupid needs to start hurting the actual stupid people.

Unfortunately since it won’t happen until 2023, my guess is some negotiated settlement which leaves things essentially as they are will happen…and Desantis will claim victory sometime in 2023 right as he kicks off his Presidential run…

yep.

And the small government, pro-free market conservatives will cheer…

conan · 2022-04-21T18:15:44.189Z

So you got nothing.

JayJay · 2022-04-21T18:18:44.828Z

conan:

So you got nothing.

Told you where to look. You do your own work.

Or keep building your fortress.

Your call.

conan · 2022-04-21T18:22:14.225Z

Desantis Protect Parental Rights in Education Politics

Done.

School over Jay…I shouldn’t have to educate most intelligent person in the room.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-04-21T18:30:27.591Z

komobu:

Disney has been sticking it to the taxpayer for the last 50 years.

Have they?

I think an honest assessment would show pretty clearly that Reedy Creek has benefited the state of Florida and its taxpayers as much or more than it has benefited Disney.

komobu:

How many other corporations do you want to give special privilege to? Just Disney because they are woke?

There are 200 other Independant Development Districts just in Florida.

conan · 2022-04-21T18:31:09.163Z

So Mickey is fired.

JayJay · 2022-04-21T18:32:10.157Z

conan:

So Mickey is fired.

Nope Disney will be just fine.

Florida taxpayers are getting hosed so Desantis can burnish his culture war credentials and make righties swoon over him even more.

Fair trade.

JayJay · 2022-04-21T18:35:56.860Z

conan:

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School over Jay…I shouldn’t have to educate most intelligent person in the room.

That’s one thing you won’t have to worry about. About the only thing you could teach me is how to build elaborate fortifications to defend your fragile ego…and that’s not something I ever try to do.

Im not afraid of having my beliefs challenged like you are.

WuWei · 2022-04-21T20:19:51.342Z

tnt:

SixFoot:

Normal people: “I don’t want you talking sex through your personal POV to my children.”

The Left: “BIGOTRY! I should be allowed to sexualize your kids!”

Talk about creeps outing themselves.

It’s really not that at all. It’s this particular law, which is vague and ripe to be used to marginalize LGBTQ community members.

I totally support ‘no sex ed k-???i don’t know what the right grade is to start…6? 7? not 3…’

But that’s not what this law is.

How is it different from prayer?

WuWei · 2022-04-21T20:20:53.213Z

If I go look in the Texas abortion law thread, am I going to find you making these same predictions?

WuWei · 2022-04-21T20:21:48.347Z

It’s not ‘sex ed’.

WuWei · 2022-04-21T20:22:56.929Z

JayJay:

A teacher in Ohio mentions to his class about his wedding to his husband…just mentioned it

That’s not true.

WuWei · 2022-04-21T20:24:25.041Z

tnt:

yep.

And the small government, pro-free market conservatives will cheer…

Was the market free when Disney got the treatment in '69?

JayJay · 2022-04-21T20:24:37.800Z

WuWei:

If I go look in the Texas abortion law thread, am I going to find you making these same predictions?

No but I can if you would like me to.

These wouldn’t be predictions. We already are seeing some pretty bad impacts from the Texas abortion law. Be happy to put them in that thread if you wish.