Dems to request Trump tax Returns

Who cares? It’s within their power.

The lesson from Republicans, from the Merrick Garland episode to their support of Donald Trump, is that if they can, they should.

Unexercised power is wasted power.

Separation of powers?

Is the Executive branch allowed to ignore the laws passed by the Legislative?

I guess the two co-equal branches of Congress and Executive can duke it out. It’s unlikely to be resolved by the lesser branch of the judiciary.

Under magistrate law they have no authority of the sovereign person known as Donald J (The J is for genius) Trump and he does not acknowledge the admiralty court known as the judiciary branch of the United States government. As a freeman of the land and a corporation he does not wish to engage in commerce or contracts with the federal judiciary…

How did I do?

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Obviously, in some cases. Executive privileged, for example. And perhaps if the sole purpose of legislative actions are to intimidate the executive.
Or, failing that, perhaps the request should just beignored…as in subpoenas during fast and furious.
There is a lot Trump could still learn from Obama in how to go around Congress.

That’s what they have federal courts for.

Allan

LMAO… An individuals tax returns are subject to executive privilege? Good luck in court…

Enhhh…NPR of all places seems to agree with me that the same argument could be made here as with subpoenas.
And that to release the returns, it may be necessary to show a legislative purpose

"* What would happen next is uncharted territory. Based on recent events, Trump might deploy Justice Department lawyers, and perhaps private lawyers, to fight the request in court. The process might resemble the not-infrequent legal battles over congressional subpoenas for executive branch documents. But the committee access provision has never been before a federal judge.

  • Were Congress to get access to Trump’s returns, it would be easy for lawmakers to disclose the information, despite various privacy protections that exist for taxpayers. The chair or committee with Trump’s tax returns could submit them to the full House or Senate if there’s a legitimate legislative purpose."

All butthurt about the election, are ya?

Yep. Is he still under audit?

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It’s a argument on very weak grounds… The intent and language of the law is very clear… Of course we can all speculate on how a legal challenge might turn out, but I think it’s pretty clear that congress wrote this into the law for these exact kind of situations. From the George Yin article cited in the NPR piece…

Congress changed the law in 1924 to address a
separation-of-powers concern. Democratic Rep.
John Nance Garner of Texas, then-ranking member
of the Ways and Means Committee, described the
problem succinctly on the House floor:

Under the present law, if this House passed a
resolution requesting the Secretary of the Treasury
to send the returns of John N. Garner to
Congress, he could not do it without violating
the law. The law tells him that he cannot send
it to the House of Representatives without the
direction of the President of the United States.
So the House of Representatives itself has not
the power to get these returns. Now, I think the
House of Representatives ought to have the power
to ask the Secretary of the Treasury for these
returns and get them.
4 [Emphasis added.]

LOL.

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To announce it, the night of the ejection, was knee jerk. They took the wind out of their own sails too. Announcing it 2 months before you can actually do it will do that.

You’d think Trump being elected would teach libs the valuable lesson that playing nice and playing by old “PR” rules was useless, but you’d be wrong.

Took the wind out of their sails? Who even knows about this?

History of playing nice. Like taking a gun to a knife fight?

Spoken like a true tyrant.

It’s actually the opposite of tyranny to hold your leaders accountable for breaking the law, no?

“Unexecised power is wasted power” - the words of any tyrant

The minority are tyrants?