Dems staying close to their roots

WuWei · 2021-10-03T15:00:17.328Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Precisely. And that is my point.

I believe her animus is based on politics , not race.

No doubt. But she used race as a weapon.

Okay, there are two elements here that bring race into the situation: the race of Thomas, and the fact that she mentions a Confederate monument.

Now: since you agree that her animus is based on politics, not race that removes Thomas from the equation.

So please explain: how is she using race as a weapon?

I have.

WuWei · 2021-10-03T15:01:03.430Z

JayJay:

She didn’t fail the test…it’s results simply were not accepted and disallowed as evidence…

…by committee chairman Joseph R. Biden.

Yes, she did. Polygraphs were not allowed as evidence in anything.

wiley8425 · 2021-10-03T15:12:16.061Z

So what? Polygraphs aren’t reliable. That’s why the results are generally inadmissable in trials.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/is-a-polygraph-test-admissible-as-evidence-31737

WuWei · 2021-10-03T15:12:34.708Z

wiley8425:

So what? Polygraphs aren’t reliable. That’s why the results are generally inadmissable in trials.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/is-a-polygraph-test-admissible-as-evidence-31737

Oh yes they are.

wiley8425 · 2021-10-03T15:12:58.501Z

No. They aren’t.

WuWei · 2021-10-03T15:14:25.599Z

wiley8425:

No. They aren’t.

Yes they are. We used them extensively in LATAM. Every employee we hired got put on the box.

She took it voluntarily and failed.

wiley8425 · 2021-10-03T15:16:43.256Z

Well in that case…

If they were reliable, people couldn’t just train themselves to “beat” it.

Polygraphs are easy to beat." NSA spokeswoman Vanee Vines says that the polygraph “is one of the vetting tools” used by the NSA and other federal agencies "to assess an individual’s eligibility for access, and continued eligibility access, to highly sensitive intelligence information."Sep 25, 2012

WuWei · 2021-10-03T15:17:17.959Z

They don’t. She’s full of crap.

wiley8425 · 2021-10-03T15:18:39.008Z

She’s not the only one. I’ve seen plenty of other people beat them too. Your unsupported opinion notwithstanding.

Hell, this guy went to jail for training people how to beat the test.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-doug-williams-war-on-lie-detector/

wiley8425 · 2021-10-03T15:30:35.268Z

She could have failed due to sweating or high blood pressure. Neither of which are concrete proof of lying. People have failed them because of weather. They’re not reliable.

FloridaYankee · 2021-10-03T15:35:35.868Z

wiley8425:

She could have failed due to sweating or high blood pressure. Neither of which are concrete proof of lying. People have failed them because of weather. They’re not reliable.

Or the fact that she was up against the entire republican establishment and over half the United States senate. No pressure!

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-10-03T16:19:05.265Z

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Precisely. And that is my point.

I believe her animus is based on politics , not race.

No doubt. But she used race as a weapon.

Okay, there are two elements here that bring race into the situation: the race of Thomas, and the fact that she mentions a Confederate monument.

Now: since you agree that her animus is based on politics, not race that removes Thomas from the equation.

So please explain: how is she using race as a weapon?

I have.

No you really haven’t.

But that’s okay. I understand (but don’t condone) the need to service the narrative.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-10-03T16:21:47.503Z

FloridaYankee:

wiley8425:

She could have failed due to sweating or high blood pressure. Neither of which are concrete proof of lying. People have failed them because of weather. They’re not reliable.

Or the fact that she was up against the entire republican establishment and over half the United States senate. No pressure!

Polygraph aren’t admissible in court, but are rock solid evidence when servicing the narrative.

wiley8425 · 2021-10-03T16:24:51.513Z

Q: “Are you lying?”
A: “Yes.”

“Test inconclusive.”

JayJay · 2021-10-03T20:03:08.344Z

WuWei:

JayJay:

She didn’t fail the test…it’s results simply were not accepted and disallowed as evidence…

…by committee chairman Joseph R. Biden.

Yes, she did. Polygraphs were not allowed as evidence in anything.

Yes but she didn’t fail. According to the person that administered the test, she passed it.

So you were incorrect in stating she failed the polygraph test.

WuWei · 2021-10-03T20:33:03.649Z

wiley8425:

She’s not the only one. I’ve seen plenty of other people beat them too. Your unsupported opinion notwithstanding.

Hell, this guy went to jail for training people how to beat the test.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

It’s not unsupported. It’s with decades of using it and offering it as a service.

TV Man is wrong again.

WuWei · 2021-10-03T20:33:27.131Z

wiley8425:

She could have failed due to sweating or high blood pressure. Neither of which are concrete proof of lying. People have failed them because of weather. They’re not reliable.

Myth. That’s not how she failed.

WuWei · 2021-10-03T20:33:54.590Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

No you really haven’t.

But that’s okay. I understand (but don’t condone) the need to service the narrative.

Yes, I really have.

WuWei · 2021-10-03T20:34:45.700Z

Yes, she did fail. The test was done to prove she was telling the truth.

FloridaYankee · 2021-10-03T21:22:44.123Z

WuWei:

Yes, she did fail. The test was done to prove she was telling the truth.

From the man who conducted the test;

Thomas Second Hearing: Polygraph Test | C-SPAN.org