Democrats Love Haley!

thinkingman · 2024-01-25T23:36:01.169Z

Ben_Natuf:

some people, myself included, recognize that Russia is a threat to the US, and that allowing Russia to win a war in Europe will make them more of a threat.

europe should be able to defend itself. thats why we fund them too

we’re not the world’s cop. or are we? or not. i can’t keep up.

Ben_Natuf · 2024-01-25T23:59:16.617Z

Last I checked we are a member of NATO… which is mostly in Europe. As a member of NATO security in Europe is our concern. As of now, Europe is providing at least as much, if not more, for Ukraine (as they should). Right now, both Europe and the US can get away with checking Russia with weapons and money. Should Ukraine fall, what do you think happens next? Do you think Russia stops there when Putin is already saying the same sorts of things about the Baltics as he did about Ukraine? Heck, now he’s even claiming the sale of AK was illegal and that its still Russian territory because of that. Should we ignore those things? Stop Russia now, on the cheap really, and we won’t have to find out.

gooddad409 · 2024-01-27T17:01:49.362Z

thinkingman:

Ben_Natuf:

I have no control over what idiot democrats do. She is and always has been a TEA party republican. This dumbass ■■■■ trying to paint her into a democrat is lunacy.

i think shes a globalist ass kissing endless ukraine funding neocon Bushie

in fact i bet soon there will be pics of her huggqjng michelle

Well Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger have endorsed her. More dems than gop voted for her in NH.

Still a Tea party republican in a pigs eye.

gooddad409 · 2024-01-27T17:04:19.013Z

thinkingman:

Ben_Natuf:

some people, myself included, recognize that Russia is a threat to the US, and that allowing Russia to win a war in Europe will make them more of a threat.

europe should be able to defend itself. thats why we fund them too

we’re not the world’s cop. or are we? or not. i can’t keep up.

We shouldn’t be no matter what Lindsey Graham (the ring leader ) thinks.

Eisenhower was right to warn us about the Military Industrial Complex.

DougBH · 2024-01-27T17:05:16.945Z

Ben_Natuf:

I have no control over what idiot democrats do. She is and always has been a TEA party republican. This dumbass ■■■■ trying to paint her into a democrat is lunacy.

I have no objection to her and would certainly vote for her above Biden. Hopefully, after South Carolina, she will realize it isn’t going to happen this year and stop drawing down resources that can better be used against Biden.

WuWei · 2024-01-27T21:01:39.124Z

Ridiculous.

Guvnah · 2024-01-27T21:55:18.811Z

gooddad409:

Still a Tea party republican in a pigs eye.

In my opinion there was a time that she was.

Key word: Was.

She has shifted.

She’s still far more conservative than anything Dems would have to offer. I’ll punch her chad if she’s the GOP candidate in November. If they manage to run Trump out of the race somehow, that’s what will likely be my GOP option in November. But yes, at this point in her political development, I would no longer categorize her as a TEA party candidate.

Ceasar · 2024-01-29T01:26:24.735Z

Guvnah:

It’s a sign of this culture that you either have to love someone/something, or hate it.

Haley is a good politician. She’s not the crit-lib that people say she is when you have to hate her.

I’d rather have her than Biden, if that were the options.

I wish she could be governor of my state.

I just see Trump leaning more to the political direction I want my president to be. And even with that, there are elements of Haley’s presidential campaigning that I prefer over Trump. It’s just that Trump embodies more of the political positions we need in this country.

“Democrats love Haley” because she’s their only hope of not having Trump as our next president. Were they re-polled if Haley were running against Biden, they would hate her. We saw that same dynamic with McCain a few cycles back.

It’s how the left picks the republican candidates. They picked Trump when he first ran, thinking Hillary would beat him, it backfired. The left picked Romney, McCain, Trump, and now Haley, only this time not because they think they can beat her, but their TDS is so strong.

The left pumps up every republican candidate they think they can beat, then turn on them after they get nominated with their media, internet, etc.

Now, since they can’t control Trump, they are so power hungry they resort to banana republic tactics like putting their political enemies in jail or prosecuting them.

It will come full circle, and they will howl. Eventually the right will do to them as they have done to the right, and they will howl. Personally I will be against it too, I want none of it from either side.

gooddad409 · 2024-01-29T14:28:31.097Z

Guvnah:

gooddad409:

Still a Tea party republican in a pigs eye.

In my opinion there was a time that she was.

Key word: Was.

She has shifted.

She’s still far more conservative than anything Dems would have to offer. I’ll punch her chad if she’s the GOP candidate in November. If they manage to run Trump out of the race somehow, that’s what will likely be my GOP option in November. But yes, at this point in her political development, I would no longer categorize her as a TEA party candidate.

I wouldn’t vote for her. I’m tired of John McCain style candidates.

Tired of candidates that the dems favor more than a lot of gop members.

They usually don’t win and wouldn’t be very good presidents even if they did.

JayJay · 2024-01-29T14:29:35.123Z

Ceasar:

Yeah…She’s a Neocon, warmonger, and Half-Crat, what’s not to love from them?

Nah it’s just Operation Chaos.

Remember that?

Ben_Natuf · 2024-01-29T14:52:37.262Z

why don’t you just stop, I’d bet there is absolutely nothing you can actually site you disagree with her on except Ukraine.

gooddad409 · 2024-01-29T15:37:30.362Z

Ben_Natuf:

why don’t you just stop, I’d bet there is absolutely nothing you can actually site you disagree with her on except Ukraine.

I agree with her about nothing really much as I felt about McCain.

I can see where MIC people like her.

Ben_Natuf · 2024-01-29T15:53:18.366Z

oh really,

and how do you feel about taxes and spending?
The border?

Face it, there is only one issue. She sees Russia as a threat and recognizes that if they succeed in Ukraine they will be a bigger threat. You think oceans will protect us from threats. They won’t.

Guvnah · 2024-01-29T17:25:49.809Z

gooddad409:

I wouldn’t vote for her. I’m tired of John McCain style candidates.

Given the hypothetical choice between her and Biden, I most certainly WOULD vote for her.

For that matter, I would vote for her over any (D), if Biden ends up dropping out.

Paul_Thomson · 2024-01-30T00:39:57.110Z

Guvnah:

Given the hypothetical choice between her and Biden, I most certainly WOULD vote for her.

For that matter, I would vote for her over any (D), if Biden ends up dropping out.

A vote for Nikki is a vote for unelected deep state control of government policy.

Guvnah · 2024-01-30T01:49:01.824Z

Paul_Thomson:

Guvnah:

Given the hypothetical choice between her and Biden, I most certainly WOULD vote for her.

For that matter, I would vote for her over any (D), if Biden ends up dropping out.

A vote for Nikki is a vote for unelected deep state control of government policy.

In a choice between Biden and Haley, so would a vote for Biden. One of those two will win. I’d rather have Haley, in spite of the Deep State implications in that vote.

Note: If Haley is the GOP candidate, we failed in the primaries. It’s too late when it comes to the general election, and we have to do the best we can with the crap-hand we’ve been dealt at that point.

Ben_Natuf · 2024-01-30T01:56:18.939Z

Because having a President who believes in lower taxes, less spending, smaller government, strong defense, and maintaining America’s place in the world is a “crap hand”.

man o man, have we ever left the land of Reagan.

Guvnah · 2024-01-30T04:19:36.201Z

Ben_Natuf:

Because having a President who believes in lower taxes, less spending, smaller government, strong defense, and maintaining America’s place in the world is a “crap hand”.

I was playing along with the post I was responding to. It was a recognition of Haley’s shift to deep-state support. But like you, I believe she would be far more fiscally responsible than any (D). Smaller government. Strong defense. And she would come without the scandal drama that Trump is sure to bring.

floydefisher · 2024-01-30T17:34:24.617Z

You do realize Sean Hannity is an independent, don’t you?

Is he now a traitor too?

floydefisher · 2024-01-30T17:38:32.717Z

So, what do you think of this guy?