Democrats claim election fraud in N.Y. , charge Trump with sedition for doing same

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T13:47:42.739Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The machine count had the undervote as a higher value.

I understand that, but how did that happen. A machine doesn’t “under count”, it just counts.

It counts what it can see.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T13:48:15.057Z

Didn’t he get hand recounts in places?

WuWei · 2021-02-09T13:48:48.179Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The machine count had the undervote as a higher value.

I understand that, but how did that happen. A machine doesn’t “under count”, it just counts.

It counts what it can see.

Indeed. So why couldn’t it “see” these?

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T13:50:43.031Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The machine count had the undervote as a higher value.

I understand that, but how did that happen. A machine doesn’t “under count”, it just counts.

It counts what it can see.

Indeed. So why couldn’t it “see” these?

Because… if one reads the complaint… the machines in Oswego County were not tested before the election.

It’s all in there.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T13:52:04.030Z

WuWei:

Didn’t he get hand recounts in places?

Don’t know… don’t really care.

Just reacting to the idea that they are claiming fraud.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T13:56:19.703Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The machine count had the undervote as a higher value.

I understand that, but how did that happen. A machine doesn’t “under count”, it just counts.

It counts what it can see.

Indeed. So why couldn’t it “see” these?

Because… if one reads the complaint… the machines in Oswego County were not tested before the election.

It’s all in there.

No. I did read it. That’s not how calibration works. Testing is verification.

The machine worked last time. There is no reason it should not work this time if nothing changed. Machines are dependable.

The test is just to verify settings have not been changed or however it works. Or that setting changes are accurate.

They should get their recount, but my question is not answered.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T13:56:44.179Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Didn’t he get hand recounts in places?

Don’t know… don’t really care.

Just reacting to the idea that they are claiming fraud.

They are implying something.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T13:57:35.370Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The machine count had the undervote as a higher value.

I understand that, but how did that happen. A machine doesn’t “under count”, it just counts.

It counts what it can see.

Indeed. So why couldn’t it “see” these?

Because… if one reads the complaint… the machines in Oswego County were not tested before the election.

It’s all in there.

No. I did read it. That’s not how calibration works. Testing is verification.

The machine worked last time. There is no reason it should not work this time if nothing changed. Machines are dependable.

The test is just to verify settings have not been changed or however it works. Or that setting changes are accurate.

They should get their recount, but my question is not answered.

If one reads the complaint. One would see that by law the machines have to be tested before each General Election. They weren’t.

Seriously… it’s like only 15 pages long and double spaced.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T14:06:15.711Z

Jezcoe:

If one reads the complaint. One would see that by law the machines have to be tested before each General Election. They weren’t.

I did read it, please stop the behind the hand implying that I didn’t. I know the test wasn’t done. That does not explain the failure of the machine in and of itself, although it is basis for the recount.

The machine should have worked even without the test unless something was changed since the last time it worked. A test is a verification, not a reason for failure.

The machine did not “not see it” because it wasn’t tested. “Not seeing it” wasn’t caught because it wasn’t tested.

If I set up a copy machine and it works. It works. If I come back 4 years later, it will still work unless something happens. Do you run “Print A Test Page” on your copier every time you use it?

Jezcoe:

Seriously… it’s like only 15 pages long and double spaced.

Seriously.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T14:07:27.614Z

Not testing is a process failure, not a machine failure.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T14:08:41.801Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

If one reads the complaint. One would see that by law the machines have to be tested before each General Election. They weren’t.

I did read it, please stop the behind the hand implying that I didn’t. I know the test wasn’t done. That does not explain the failure of the machine in and of itself, although it is basis for the recount.

The machine should have worked even without the test unless something was changed since the last time it worked. A test is a verification, not a reason for failure.

The machine did not “not see it” because it wasn’t tested. “Not seeing it” wasn’t caught because it wasn’t tested.

If I set up a copy machine and it works. It works. If I come back 4 years later, it will still work unless something happens. Do you run “Print A Test Page” on your copier every time you use it?

Jezcoe:

Seriously… it’s like only 15 pages long and double spaced.

Seriously.

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

I don’t know the ends and the outs.

I don’t know the technology.

I don’t know what it takes to calibrate the machines or how the optics work ot any of it.

I am only saying what is in the complaint.

Whether they win or lose their complaint… I could give a crap.

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

WuWei · 2021-02-09T14:09:57.456Z

Jezcoe:

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

Yet…

Jezcoe:

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

Is failure to test not a form of fraud? Was it not intentional?

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T14:10:19.455Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

Yet…

Jezcoe:

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

Is failure to test not a form of fraud?

No.

It is incompetence

WuWei · 2021-02-09T14:11:31.530Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

Yet…

Jezcoe:

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

Is failure to test not a form of fraud?

No.

It is incompetence

What’s the difference? Do you really believe those people appointed to those positions are that stupid?

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T14:12:33.857Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

Yet…

Jezcoe:

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

Is failure to test not a form of fraud?

No.

It is incompetence

What’s the difference? Do you really believe those people appointed to those positions are that stupid?

Yes.

Yes I do.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T14:17:03.984Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

Yet…

Jezcoe:

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

Is failure to test not a form of fraud?

No.

It is incompetence

What’s the difference? Do you really believe those people appointed to those positions are that stupid?

Yes.

Yes I do.

If they appointed stupid people, the appointers defrauded the public.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T14:17:25.047Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You don’t understand how little I care about this case.

Yet…

Jezcoe:

What I am reacting against is that they claimed fraud ( they didn’t) and that this is analogous to what Trump did (it isn’t)

Is failure to test not a form of fraud?

No.

It is incompetence

What’s the difference? Do you really believe those people appointed to those positions are that stupid?

Yes.

Yes I do.

If they appointed stupid people, the appointers defrauded the public.

Yeah… this is getting dumb.

WuWei · 2021-02-09T14:18:19.346Z

Since you cannot answer my question, I agree. Have a nice day.

Striker840 · 2021-02-09T14:25:14.284Z

That does not explain why the machine failed to “see” the ballots. So, the question remains, what causes a machine to not “see” the ballot.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-09T14:25:31.290Z

Striker840:

That does not explain why the machine failed to “see” the ballots. So, the question remains, what causes a machine to not “see” the ballot.

Keep reading the thread.