Debate #1 being in the books, which candidates are you mulling and which have you discarded for the primary

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For me the dead noes (will not vote for in primary or general) are:

Trump (I have obviously been dead set against Trump since he entered the 2016 race.)
DeSantis (He has gone out of his way to alienate me, particularly with his heavy handed governing style and his persecution of Disney.)
Ramaswamy (He has gone down the same populist, conspiratorial route as Trump.)

Haley is at the top at the moment

I would be willing to vote for the others (primary or general). I wish Pence and Scott would lose the abortion messaging, which would help them and Pence should reconsider his “consensus vs leadership” opinion.

But that is just my opinion.

What is YOUR opinion. Please give your favorite and any definite noes.

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My backup to Trump is now Larry Elder.

He was handed the muddy end of the stick by being excluded. This may end up helping him.

Vivek is still good. Anti war is the policy I require.

Tim Scott also impressive.

The rest can drop out.

Christie and Hutchins are contemptible.

I didn’t bother watching either the debate or Tucker yet.

Watching FOX spin. Why are they afraid of Don Jr?

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Haley was great, as expected.

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I thought so too. Republicans would be wise to promote her more. But current Republicans aren’t wise.

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I don’t know libs…

Wasn’t it nikki haley that was wasting money decorating her office?? And wasn’t she sleeping with trump??

I think you guys are blowing smoke.

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Anyone who raised their hands is a definite no.

This wasn’t a “do you support the presume innocent trump” this was will you support jury found and convicted felonious criminal trump " question.

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https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1694531303956521443?t=uSeNpPqYs72xIPjaaw4MDA&s=19

The speed at which the first three raised their hand is disturbing. The bending of the knee to Trump is not a good look

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I don’t get the TDS. He had a great economy and peace. Can you name a bad Trump policy?

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I liked him until he ran fro Governor of Cal. and lost. He was a terrible candidate and out of his league. He should have let the Mayor of San Diego run by getting out of the race.

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Just one little one: Attempting to overturn the legitimate election for President of the United States.

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That’s not a Trump policy…

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Meanwhile Trump and Tucker are over 150 million views

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I cannot get past his childish immature antics. A President should actually act Presidential and calling people stupid names, throwing temper tantrums just because one doesn’t endorse you, etc.

He is an embarrassment to the office and we CAN do better.

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So, you throw out good policy for stuff of no substance… That’s just weird to me. Trump is a moderate.

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Lots of Republicans support good policy.

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Good point.

I give Elder the benefit of the doubt since CA is so DEM biased.

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I have a certain level of Bergum Fever.

I also like Chris Christie very much.

All the others are absolute no.

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You can wish for that to be true.

It simply is not. Trump pushed his legal challenges as far as he could.

Trump was robbed by the twitter revelation so that makes his rhetoric valid.

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Course I can.

  • Support for SA war in Yemen and moving US military to protect Saudi Arabian oil infrastructure after the Saudis got their ass kicked in fall of 2019

  • putting on hold 20b in aid to Puerto Rico for no good reason after the hurricane

  • kowtowing and praising north Korean, Chinese , and other dictators while trying to shank NATO. Supporting Chinese propaganda language calling the honk Kong protest “rioter”

  • appointment of “acting” officials in high level positon to get around Senate confirmation

  • worst job record leaving office since Hoover

  • leaving multilateral agreements like JCPOA, TPP, Paris accord among others without anything to replace or improve

  • protectionist policies and tariffs that led to increase farm bailouts.

  • shutting down the federal government 3x in one year while having GOP control of both house and Senate .

  • increased federal deficits every single year BEFORE covid

But the most important bad Trump policy :

  • Attempted an autogolpe to stay in power after having lost a constitutional election

But this is not the thread to discuss that and I won’t derail Safiel thread anymore.

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I also find it funny democrats are pointing to neocons that republicans should vote for, you know revert back to the the party of perpetual war again, good stuff. :+1:

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But can you name one?