Deaths from Other Illnesses During COVID-19

[Jezcoe]

@Janet_Miller

Obviously avoiding jumping into the fire is common sense. Avoid crowds when possible. Even lessen risks at various businesses, for example, making the owner’s time by appointment only, that’s actually reasonable.

What isn’t is telling others what they do and don’t
need and shooting down in flames the dreams of small business owners in particular with forced shutdowns.

Honestly the attitudes of some in MA these individuals would do great in a country with a dictatorship. I’m surprised how much they love having their choices and activities dictated.

One Michaels employee seemed proud of various stores “roping off inessential items so customers couldn’t look at them.” Woman, who in the ■■■■ do you think you are telling customers they can’t look at items like vegetable seeds?

Here’s an idea maybe those same souls “looking at stuff they don’t need” would make less crowds in the grocery store, stay there less time, if they grew a few things at home themselves.

Honestly so many in this neck of the woods are like lemmings blindly playing follow the leader until they get zero choices of their own. It’s actually pretty heartening in my own small town many participate in rallies for conservative candidates and attend outdoor gatherings without “masking up”.

I see a lot of those complaints going back to the early couple of months of the pandemic when no one really knew what the ■■■■ to do.

I have not seen the type of stuff like roping off sections of stores and such since like May of 2020.

Doing things like that… I just don’t see it happening anymore.

[DMK]

@Jezcoe

I make TV and movies for a living. I will be the first to tell you that what I “make” is mostly worthless and nonessential.

Good Gawds.

Says who?

[Janet_Miller]

Who decides what is and isn’t essential?

If many are staying home while forced out of their jobs, shouldn’t they have some entertainment for their mental well being?

It got so bad Amazon workers were trying to avoid shipping “inessential items”, like books and craft projects some wanted to keep themselves occupied.

I find terms like “essential” and “inessential” to be disturbing when describing employees and business owners.

[Janet_Miller]

To some extent it’s still taking place here.

A young woman whose small business opening I attended in 2019 is still under restriction as to the number of students she can admit to her studio.

She now has a second job to make up for loss of income. Some still use terms like “essential workers” to get out of trouble with the police.

Two years have passed quickly. Some, however, are still stuck in the mindset and restrictions from that time period.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@Janet_Miller

I’m sorry, what?

Top causes of death in the United States in 2020: Heart disease, cancer and COVID-19

Number 3 doesn’t take home the gold. Heart disease and cancer are the top two, and ■■■■■■ admonishing Americans as if they were idiots to “put off nonessential medical visits” couldn’t possibly be to blame, could it? Don’t go in 20 for the mammogram, pap, colonoscopy or routine physical but go in 21, when it’s at a later stage, hmm could that be related?

Another bigwig was actually on the radio advising to please avoid unneeded trips to the grocery and drug store to keep others safe…that woman is ■■■■■■■ nuts and really out of touch with average Joes and Janes. Does she for real think we visit venues when we’re bored?! We don’t actually need to be there?!

Cruel experimentation on dogs and out of touch with average human beings ■■■■■■ needs to go. His recommendations have done far more harm than good.

The annual death numbers for the top two killers, heart Disease and Cancer were not too out of line with the yearly average.

Add Covid to that mix and that strains the system.

Honestly… people should still take precautions because Covid is still out there… but for those who are vaccinated and boosted, the risk is much much less.

Only if you put some spin on it. I mean, five times more likely to die if unvaxxed sounds a lot scarier than saying the chance goes from 105 per million people to 532 per million.

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

Only if you put some spin on it. I mean, five times more likely to die if unvaxxed sounds a lot scarier than saying the chance goes from 105 per million people to 532 per million

Well if you cared at 105 then you should be 5x more worried at 532.

If you never cared at 105… then I doubt you care at 532

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@zantax

Only if you put some spin on it. I mean, five times more likely to die if unvaxxed sounds a lot scarier than saying the chance goes from 105 per million people to 532 per million

Well if you cared at 105 then you should be 5x more worried at 532.

If you never cared at 105… then I doubt you care at 532

No I shouldn’t, they are both a very small chance of dying. And that is not even considering variables such as weight, age and underlying conditions. The risk obviously being much less for the young and healthy.

[Janet_Miller]

This is really humane and will improve patient morale—NOT:

NYC-run hospitals to ban most visitors amid surge in COVID-19 cases

It’s the same in Massachusetts hospitals. I avoid them, anyway, except for outpatient services. I really don’t trust very many physicians or nurses in these venues.

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

I dunno about anyone else here, but I’ve been living a completely normal life for the last two years, just as I have for the last forty or so.

I almost feel like I could feel bad for the morons who’ve been taking commands from Prime Time. Must be the germ pits they live in or something. lol

Your life for the last 40 years has been anything but “normal.”

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

No I shouldn’t, they are both a very small chance of dying. And that is not even considering variables such as weight, age and underlying conditions. The chance obviously being much less risk for the young and healthy.

You didn’t read my post.

“If you never cared at 105… I doubt you care at 532.”

You literally fit that statement.

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@zantax

No I shouldn’t, they are both a very small chance of dying. And that is not even considering variables such as weight, age and underlying conditions. The chance obviously being much less risk for the young and healthy.

You didn’t read my post.

“If you never cared at 105… I doubt you care at 532.”

You literally fit that statement.

Has nothing to do with caring, it has to do with being rational. For comparison, you have a one in one hundred and seven chance of dying in a car accident over the course of your life.

[Camp]

Lame alright.

Clinging to that Covid posture.

Go do a victory lap with Brandon.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

Only if you put some spin on it. I mean, five times more likely to die if unvaxxed sounds a lot scarier than saying the chance goes from 105 per million people to 532 per million.

A five fold increase in death should scare most everyone. Especially if it can be easily prevented.

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Only if you put some spin on it. I mean, five times more likely to die if unvaxxed sounds a lot scarier than saying the chance goes from 105 per million people to 532 per million.

A five fold increase in death should scare most everyone. Especially if it can be easily prevented.

You must be terrified to drive. 9,345 per million chance of dying.

[JimmyC]

@zantax

Has nothing to do with caring, it has to do with being rational. For comparison, you have a one in one hundred and seven chance of dying in a car accident over the course of your life.

Not sure that is the more rational concern at this point in time. ~40,000 people a year die in auto accidents. There’s been ~550,000 deaths from covid in the year since since vaccines have been available.

[zantax]

@JimmyC

@zantax

Has nothing to do with caring, it has to do with being rational. For comparison, you have a one in one hundred and seven chance of dying in a car accident over the course of your life.

Not sure that is the more rational concern at this point in time. ~40,000 people a year die in auto accidents. There’s been ~550,000 deaths from covid in the year since since vaccines have been available.

It’s rational to be afraid if you are elderly and or immunocompromised, otherwise, no. That 550k is not distributed evenly across the population.

[DMK]

@Janet_Miller

Who decides what is and isn’t essential?

What or who?

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Only if you put some spin on it. I mean, five times more likely to die if unvaxxed sounds a lot scarier than saying the chance goes from 105 per million people to 532 per million.

A five fold increase in death should scare most everyone. Especially if it can be easily prevented.

You must be terrified to drive. 9,345 per million chance of dying.

Nope… there has been decades of putting safety measures and risk reduction into motor vehicles.

it is all about assessing risk.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@JimmyC

@zantax

Has nothing to do with caring, it has to do with being rational. For comparison, you have a one in one hundred and seven chance of dying in a car accident over the course of your life.

Not sure that is the more rational concern at this point in time. ~40,000 people a year die in auto accidents. There’s been ~550,000 deaths from covid in the year since since vaccines have been available.

It’s rational to be afraid if you are elderly and or immunocompromised, otherwise, no. That 550k is not distributed evenly across the population.

It is distributed heavily towards the unvaccinated.

[Janet_Miller]

What goods or services and which workers?

I find the classifications rather disturbing unless on a strictly individual level, as in money is tight. Is this good or service something I or we as a family can’t live without?