(D)omestic Terror in Atlanta

DougBH · 2023-03-07T00:16:43.500Z

zantax:

Looked it up, it’s a Georgia law.

from https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arrests-atlanta-cop-city-protests-raise-concerns-domestic-terrorism-ch-rcna67755

But in a number of states, including Georgia, domestic terrorism laws include a wide variety of offenses outside those motivated by hate.

Because the Georgia statute “focuses on conduct that is intended to intimidate the government or to affect the government in any way,” Keenan, the law professor, said, it is “especially vulnerable to politicized use.”

Unlike federal laws on “seditious conspiracy”, which are of course completely different and never bothered NBC or those law professors when used against Capitol Hill trespassers who didn’t burn down anything.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2023-03-07T00:31:17.032Z

DougBH:

Unlike federal laws on “seditious conspiracy”, which are of course completely different and never bothered NBC or those law professors when used against Capitol Hill trespassers who didn’t burn down anything.

Yes, the federal charge of “seditious conspiracy” is a completely different crime than Georgia’s “domestic terrorism” law.

DougBH · 2023-03-07T00:51:28.639Z

And the same argument can be used against it being for political purposes as can be made against a law called domestic,terrorism. Of course it’s not the same law Doctor Obvious.
But won’t be…unless some leftist is charged with seditious conspiracy.

Some leftists have sense to realize another administration could use this same law against themselves.

Lawfare – 6 May 21

The Justice Department Shouldn’t Open the Pandora’s Box of Seditious Conspiracy

The Justice Department’s pursuit of criminal charges against the perpetrators of the Jan. 6 mob invasion of the Capitol is gathering steam, but it should resist using the seditious conspiracy statute.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2023-03-07T00:58:41.606Z

DougBH:

And the same argument can be used against it being for political purposes as can be made against a law called domestic terrorism. Of course it’s not the same law Doctor Obvious.

What “argument” is that?

DougBH:

But won’t be…unless some leftist is charged with seditious conspiracy.

Some leftists have sense to realize another administration could use this same law against themselves.

Do you think 18 U.S. Code § 2384 is a new law?

(Lawfare is not in any sense a “leftist” blog)

DougBH · 2023-03-07T01:05:02.577Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

DougBH:

And the same argument can be used against it being for political purposes as can be made against a law called domestic terrorism. Of course it’s not the same law Doctor Obvious.

What “argument” is that?

DougBH:

But won’t be…unless some leftist is charged with seditious conspiracy.

Some leftists have sense to realize another administration could use this same law against themselves.

Do you think 18 U.S. Code § 2384 is a new law?

The argument being made against the anti terrorist act is that the statute “focuses on conduct that is intended to intimidate the government or to affect the government in any way”. Now, read the seditious conspiracy act. As I said, the same argument could be made about it.

As to the length either has been a law, that has no relevance. A law that is a week old is just as enforceable as a law that is two hundred years old.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2023-03-07T01:09:41.585Z

DougBH:

The argument being made against the anti terrorist act is that the statute “focuses on conduct that is intended to intimidate the government or to affect the government in any way”. Now, read the seditious conspiracy act. As I said, the same argument could be made about it.

Who is making that argument?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2023-03-07T01:14:13.073Z

DougBH:

As to the length either has been a law, that has no relevance. A law that is a week old is just as enforceable as a law that is two hundred years old.

You missed my point, by a mile. I’ll put it another way

Do you think “leftists” have never been charged with “seditious conspiracy” by you guys(c) before?

DougBH · 2023-03-07T01:20:11.925Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

DougBH:

The argument being made against the anti terrorist act is that the statute “focuses on conduct that is intended to intimidate the government or to affect the government in any way”. Now, read the seditious conspiracy act. As I said, the same argument could be made about it.

Who is making that argument?

The persons name is right by the quote. It is in the article linked in the post to which I was replying. I am not going to copy the entire article which you should have read before making your comments.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2023-03-07T01:21:47.104Z

DougBH:

The persons name is right by the quote. It is in the article linked in the post to which I was replying. I am not going to copy the entire article which you should have read before making your comments.

You mean the guy who wrote the blog post on Lawfare?

DougBH · 2023-03-07T01:24:06.308Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

DougBH:

As to the length either has been a law, that has no relevance. A law that is a week old is just as enforceable as a law that is two hundred years old.

You missed my point, by a mile. I’ll put it another way

Do you think “leftists” have never been charged with “seditious conspiracy” by you guys(c) before?

Which leftists? Who are “my guys”? Did I say that no leftist had been charged under that statute before? If you believe there is no conceptual relationship between the arguments made against the state law and the federal law, why do you care about who was charged before?
How many people have been charged before under the state law? What were their names? What were their political philosophies?

DougBH · 2023-03-07T01:24:59.588Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

DougBH:

The persons name is right by the quote. It is in the article linked in the post to which I was replying. I am not going to copy the entire article which you should have read before making your comments.

You mean the guy who wrote the blog post on Lawfare?

No. You need an English refresher course.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2023-03-07T01:27:19.407Z

DougBH:

Which leftists? Who are “my guys”? Did I say that no leftist had been charged under that statute before? If you believe there is no conceptual relationship between the arguments made against the state law and the federal law, why do you care about who was charged before?

Because apparently, you think we’re “opening a Pandora’s box.”

What’s in the box? More of the same?

What are we supposed to be afraid of?

DougBH · 2023-03-07T01:28:30.615Z

I referenced the article. I am not defending it. You may want to contact the author.

DougBH · 2023-03-07T01:33:17.650Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

DougBH:

As to the length either has been a law, that has no relevance. A law that is a week old is just as enforceable as a law that is two hundred years old.

You missed my point, by a mile. I’ll put it another way

Do you think “leftists” have never been charged with “seditious conspiracy” by you guys(c) before?

“Do you think 18 USC 2384 is a new law?” Is not an argument.

e7alr · 2023-03-07T02:38:25.479Z

Well, well… Seems an SPLC lawyer is among the violent individuals arrested. Claims he was there as a legal observer to document the heavy-handed police enforcement intervention against the “protesters.” I am going to go out on a limb and suspect that he is going to figure in police body cam and dash cam footage. I think we have a lawyer among us. Do tell us what happens to members of the bar if convicted of violent criminal activity?

Southern Poverty Law Center lawyer arrested, charged with domestic terrorism amid Atlanta ‘Cop City’ attack

Rodeo · 2023-03-07T03:12:08.035Z

SixFoot:

D)omestic terrorism charges. Whaddya know

A Georgia state government official was on Fox this morning said all but two of the people arrested were from out of town…a few from out of the country including Canada and France…

Gee I wonder who paid their bills…

If we could get some facial recognition would we see some of the same faces that rioted in Portland or Minneapolis?

What’s the payscale for professional agitators…do they get dental and a 401k. Are they salaried or is this a contract thing?

The Atlanta Training Center is not going on some old untouched forest…it’s going on land that housed the Old Atlanta Prison farm…which hasn’t stopped a bunch of idiots from babbling about “environmental racism”…whatever that means. (It means the two religions of leftists, envirowackoism and ‘Everything is racist’ have been mushed into one thing I guess)…

I hope the state of Georgia finds a nice comfy cell for the dirtbags who did this for a long time.

Rodeo · 2023-03-07T03:16:00.455Z

e7alr:

Well, well… Seems an SPLC lawyer is among the violent individuals arrested. Claims he was there as a legal observer to document the heavy-handed police enforcement intervention against the “protesters.” I am going to go out on a limb and suspect that he is going to figure in police body cam and dash cam footage. I think we have a lawyer among us. Do tell us what happens to members of the bar if convicted of violent criminal activity?

Southern Poverty Law Center lawyer arrested, charged with domestic terrorism amid Atlanta ‘Cop City’ attack

Ahhhh…the old Southern Poverty Law Center….

A bunch of left wing nuts if ever there was a bunch of left wing nuts.

Hexenbiest · 2023-03-07T06:15:23.246Z

e7alr:

Seems an SPLC lawyer is among the violent individuals arrested.

No surprise there, SPLC, Antifa, and NAMBLA all run in the same circles.

Smyrna · 2023-03-07T12:27:17.592Z

Smyrna:

Will the fake leftist media show this today?

Did anybody notice that the MSM did NOT give this much coverage yesterday. Why is that? Does everyone here realize the media has become a political weapon of the left?

zantax · 2023-03-07T14:34:06.456Z

Smyrna:

Smyrna:

Will the fake leftist media show this today?

Did anybody notice that the MSM did NOT give this much coverage yesterday. Why is that? Does everyone here realize the media has become a political weapon of the left?

Everyone does but only one side will admit it.