Camp
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Biden supporters are still reeling from that debate.
mot1man
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So Bidensplaining it is.
Good job 
ETA, I call bull squeeze. He knew what he was saying.
It was said to pull in more of the “proggie left”, because his VP pick had already turned some off during the VP debate.
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This would be a plan on a scale far beyond either the Manhattan Project or Apollo.
Not saying I’m opposed to it. I support a zero-emissions future. I’m just not sure if it could be done in 30 years without rupturing the economy as we know it in the process.
Especially when many people on the climate side oppose nuclear fission, which would need to be expanded greatly to achieve such a future without degrading our standard of living.
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Jezcoe
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As opposed to… high prices because of a changing climate.
Oh… that’s okay. We will be dead before it gets really expensive.
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tzu
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Plus massive, unstoppable migration inland and northward.
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Jezcoe
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You can’t get to a zero emission future without nuclear.
That is changing on the left more than you think.
Samm
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It’s reminiscent of Lyndon Johnson warning that if Goldwater was elected there would be a nuclear world war.
tzu
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We don’t have long until we wet-bulb most of the planet.
Jezcoe
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Joe Biden is many things.
Well spoken is not one of them.
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Jezcoe
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Yeah. Migrant caravans bad now?
Think of under changing climate pressure.
Camp
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Yesterday’s Auntie Fah rioters will be tomorrow’s nuclear operators.
Lofty.
tzu
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The ProPublica piece on the subject is eye-opening. We’re talking, lowest numbers, 2 billion in transit by midcentury.
tzu
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There are ‘viable’ non-nuclear options, involving lunar transmission.
JayJay
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Not sure what he was saying at the debate…but on his website, his plan has always been net zero by 2050, with the framework for that in place by the end of his first term.
Only someone who wants to believe fairy tales…or sell a fearmongering story…would believe that anyone would think we could be carbon neutral or have replaced fossil fuels in four years
Camp
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2050 is also a fairy tale.
It puts off deliverables nicely though.