Coronavirus Thread Political

Cynic · 2020-03-12T21:31:07.358Z

Make a case, for devoted apologists?

FreeAndClear · 2020-03-12T21:34:04.174Z

Konssurvative1:

China has 15,593 existing cases in Hubei province, where all this began back in December. Over 61,000 people have recovered.
All told, around 81,000 people in China caught the mysterious, and fast spreading coronavirus. That’s under half a percent of the population.

Thank you for the article.

SeaManatee · 2020-03-12T21:34:23.017Z

The buck stops with everyone. Trump made himself the face of this response and he and his administration told some HUGE lies. How is it surprising that he’s getting a lot of the blame right now?

Konssurvative1 · 2020-03-12T21:39:35.765Z

You’re welcome @FreeAndClear…

Omoplata · 2020-03-12T21:42:25.476Z

The Italian government ordered all mortgage payments suspended by private lenders for small firms and households.

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:15:54.970Z

That doesn’t mean the tests are being processed in your hospital lab.

What I do know is that according to CDC all fifty state labs have the test kits and are performing the tests. As per their announcements last week hospital and private labs are in the process of getting certified to run the actual tests but I haven’t seen anything as far as h ow many have been certified to this point and are up and running.

You’ve had a local/state problem from the start and it appears to be continuing.

conan · 2020-03-12T20:16:06.441Z

This is non political thread…but lets leave it at this. Your defense is one and same with forums big goverment bureaucrats.

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:17:06.777Z

And if we had the production capability in the US we would not be dependent on their production. We then of course move to the issue of transporting and distribution which is greatly complicated with them being overseas.

MoleUK · 2020-03-12T20:17:58.153Z

WildRose:

And if we had the production capability in the US we would not be dependent on their production. We then of course move to the issue of transporting and distribution which is greatly complicated with them being overseas.

Only if you nationalised it. Otherwise the shortage would be exactly the same. But yeah leave the politics for the other thread.

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:18:50.855Z

Simply a fact. The CDC isn’t in charge of US industrial output or production.

The articles also don’t state that there IS a current shortage of the reagents just a concern that the supply could become limited and thus impact testing in the future.

JayJay · 2020-03-12T20:19:25.192Z

Coronavirus non-political

WildRose:

And if we had the production capability in the US we would not be dependent on their production. We then of course move to the issue of transporting and distribution which is greatly complicated with them being overseas.

Only if you nationalised it. Otherwise the shortage would be exactly the same. But yeah leave the politics for the other thread.

I was going to say the same thing.

The economy is global whether you like it or not.

Manfactured goods go to those who pay for it. With free flows of capital, those people could be anywhere.

Are we going to now suggest nationalizing certain types of manufacturing and making sure those goods could only be sold in the United States?

Or having the government buy up those goods and distribute them?

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:19:34.541Z

Completely false. There are lots of ways to encourage industries to come back to the US that don’t require nationalization.

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:20:12.015Z

No, nobody is suggesting that.

JayJay · 2020-03-12T20:21:38.589Z

WildRose:

Completely false. There are lots of ways to encourage industries to come back to the US that don’t require nationalization.

You can’t force them to sell their goods only here as well.

And with some goods, the manufacturing takes place in other countries to be close to where the raw materials are…it makes sense from a supply chain perspective, and no amount of “government encouragement” would be able to offset that.

JayJay · 2020-03-12T20:22:04.331Z

WildRose:

No, nobody is suggesting that.

Then since demand is global, shortages would still exist.

Your solution solves nothing.

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:29:26.238Z

It creates production here in the US and competition for those abroad.

If this type of testing requires specific reagents the demand globally for them is only going to increase as a result of this outbreak.

conan · 2020-03-12T20:38:58.831Z

WildRose:

Simply a fact. The CDC isn’t in charge of US industrial output or production.

No they aren’t…but they are now in charge what hospitals can release to media.

Do you understand that?

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:40:03.860Z

The CDC has no such authority.

conan · 2020-03-12T20:53:12.043Z

If you say so…

WildRose · 2020-03-12T20:55:08.826Z

They simply have no such authority. Your local people have been screwing this up from the start and trying to pass the buck to Atlanta and DC and it appears they are just continuing to do so.