All we can do is hope.

Of course they did. :wink:

Did you read the article? They admitted it. The Gov. apologized for it.

Keep hoping…scary rhetoric…something. :grin:

“Hard Stop” at 89 days to prevent benefits from kicking in.

We’re printing money like confetti but sure, lets screw the National Guard.

“We would greatly benefit from unified messaging regarding the conclusion of their services prior to hitting the 90-day mark and the retirement benefit implications associated with it,” the official said.

Messaging > National Guard.

The military stopping a deployment one day prior to additional benefits kick in. Say it isn’t so! I am shocked I tell you shocked.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

The military? It’s the Trump administration’s directive.

He is not signing an extension not signing a stop order. It is a standard thing in military. If he signed an extension most likely they would send a different group of people.

False.

Trump’s original order calling up Guard members to help with the coronavirus crisis had been scheduled to expire on May 31. With the deadline approaching, Colorado’s entire congressional delegation — Republicans and Democrats alike — wrote to the president asking for an extension until the end of the year. Senators from New Hampshire, Connecticut, West Virginia and Illinois sought an extension through the fall. And several officials, including Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, have written letters asking for an extension until at least June 30.

Instead, the White House issued an unusual 24-day extension that terminates the deployment mid-week.

You can click the links to read the story.

There was a clear choice made to cut the extension short, in the middle of the week, despite governors/senators requests

The reason, as you acknowledge, is clear.

They all didn’t start at the same time. So this 89 day thing is just a liberal red herring. He just gave a date they couldn’t be extended past. For as far as you and the papers TDS knows it will get extended again.

“my prior memoranda dated March 22, 28, and 30, 2020, and April 2, 7, and 13, 2020, each titled “Providing Federal Support for Governors’ Use of the National Guard to Respond to COVID‑19,” and my prior memoranda dated April 20 and 28, 2020, each titled “Providing Continued Federal Support for Governors’ Use of the National Guard to Respond to COVID-19 and to Facilitate Economic Recovery,” shall extend to, and shall be available for orders of any length authorizing duty through June 24, 2020.”

Also the governor’s were worried about 30 day benefits not 90.

'So this 84 day thing is just a liberal red herring" Is a very dumb thing to say when I’ve given you a handful of links laying out the very clear chain of events here, and quotes from FEMA officials explicitly stating that the reason for the short exention was to not allow the guardsman to receive 90 benefits.

The Trump administration explicitly made the choice to stop them on a Wednesday so as to not have to pay out education benefits to the National Guardsman.

Your first response to this story wasn’t to refute any of it. You just pooh-pooh’d it off, it wasn’t until I pointed out that it was clearly an administration directive to screw the national guard that you must have realized it’s a real bad stance you were taking.

You provided a newspapers interpretation I posted his actual words and orders. You do not know when each individuals or units were cut.

90 day benefits are not 90 day chunks at a time, it is cumulative in a year. Face it you don’t know what you are talking about.

Whilst I believe in equality, I am obligated to respect your right to have your own opinion. You have that right no matter how myopic or obtuse your reasoning. Myopic is appropriate as each event occurs in a context. For instance, the Gettysburg address. Near the middle of the text it states, “We cannot consecrate”. This sounds ominous but we do not know what it means without the understanding of the rest of the speech.

Another example would be the beginning of the preamble to the Constitution. “We the people” means nothing without context. Yet the end of the preamble contains this, “and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

I could add an example from the Declaration of Independence, it would start with “We hold” but in this case when we reached created equal most would not comprehend the statement even in the full context of the text. To understand this sentiment, you must understand the context of the culture during that era. Who amongst us today understand a caste social structure where your place in society is determined at birth? That is antithetical to American values but still common in many parts of the world.

AS America has fought many wars since the adoption of the Constitution, we may presume that the preservation of that Constitution may play a small part of the root cause of conflict in at least one of them. Perhaps even there is agreement that the civil war was to preserve the union.

If we can find common ground on this, then there is hope that Liberty is a common theme in great American treatise. Yes, some of you will bring up the trail of tears and leave out the history of European powers arming the Indians to attack the Western Frontier. Context again plays a roll. We always tend to ignore the European influence in the conflict.

Back to liberty. A small number of pensive persons would deny the role America played in protecting democracy from tyranny during the great world wars. In this context please consider the American deaths during the Civil War, WW1, and WW2. Not to mention casualties in conflicts post 1947.

Now that I have presented some context please consider what is happening in America today. Masks are not a singular prescription to save lives. They are part of a much larger surveillance, conscription and control program to save lives. How many lives could have been saved in history if we would have simply relinquished our rights and accepted the loss of liberty.

We do not know the context of the conscription being forced upon us today as there is indeed censorship underway. But someday even people like you, will regret your sheepish point of view.

That’s a lot of words to say that one doesn’t want to wear a mask.

I don’t know why people are being weird about wearing a mask during a pandemic.

I just didn’t think it would be all so stupid.

some think it is weird that people get arrested for not wearing a mask.

And you quoted it in the very next post. COME ON!

Liberty is meaningless.

so is free speech

What is the reasoning behind not wearing a mask short of “Well I don’t want to”?

This isn’t watering the liberty tree, this is a pandemic.

What is so hard about wearing a damn mask when out in public with other people wearing their damn masks?

free as in “freedom”?

Or do you mean liberty speech?