Coronavirus Thread Political II

[tnt]

@thinkingman

if the EO’s run contrary to federal law, he can

no he can’t.

He can sue the state and ask the courts to strike the Eos down. But he can not over rule them.

Just cite the constitutional text that supports you

[thinkingman]

@tnt

@thinkingman

he’s right.

federal law is supreme and can over-ride state and local laws if necessary.

Can you cite the constitutional text that supports your position?

if you disagree with my position, it is on you to disprove it

[thinkingman]

@tnt

@thinkingman

if the EO’s run contrary to federal law, he can

no he can’t.

He can sue the state and ask the courts to strike the Eos down. But he can not over rule them.

Just cite the constitutional text that supports you

federal law is supreme over the land

if you want to find out where in the constitution that is be my guest

[thinkingman]

@CanadianJudo

@thinkingman

@tnt

@thinkingman

“I like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them, because from a constitutional standpoint, that’s the way it should be done. If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it. But I’d rather have them — you can call it ‘federalist,’ you can call it ‘the Constitution,’ but I call it ‘the Constitution.’ I would rather have them make their decisions,”

He doesn’t have the authority to overrule them on their EOs.

if the EO’s run contrary to federal law, he can

what federal law gives President authority of shelter in place directives.

where does he say he is going to over-rule shelter in place directives?

[tnt]

@thinkingman

if you disagree with my position, it is on you to disprove it

No it’s not! the onus is on you to prove your case.

And I can’t prove a negative. The text doesn’t exist to support your position.

[tnt]

@thinkingman

federal law is supreme over the land

if you want to find out where in the constitution that is be my guest

It’s not there. I know it, and I suspect you do as well.

[AlexMcAlpine]

@thinkingman

if you disagree with my position, it is on you to disprove it

So you can’t cite the constutional text that supports your position.

Deflection noted.

[tnt]

@thinkingman

where does he say he is going to over-rule shelter in place directives?

how else would he open the economy?

[CanadianJudo]

@thinkingman

@CanadianJudo

@thinkingman

@tnt

@thinkingman

“I like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them, because from a constitutional standpoint, that’s the way it should be done. If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it. But I’d rather have them — you can call it ‘federalist,’ you can call it ‘the Constitution,’ but I call it ‘the Constitution.’ I would rather have them make their decisions,”

He doesn’t have the authority to overrule them on their EOs.

if the EO’s run contrary to federal law, he can

what federal law gives President authority of shelter in place directives.

where does he say he is going to over-rule shelter in place directives?

what do you think he was talking about when he said that above quote.

[AlexMcAlpine]

And I see the discussion about Trump’s press conference today has been buried here and will now die.

[JayJay]

@Rodeo

I wish you guys would make up your minds. Either the Drs are constantly correcting him or they family and sycophants…

And by the way would you expect the President’s task force to be populated with kook fringe left wing haters?

There’s not a single public health expert on the reopening committee.

[noSpaces]

“When somebody’s president of the United States, the authority is total, and that’s the way it’s gotta be.” ----Donald Trump

“I take no responsibility at all.” ----Donald Trump

[thinkingman]

@tnt

@thinkingman

if you disagree with my position, it is on you to disprove it

No it’s not! the onus is on you to prove your case.

And I can’t prove a negative. The text doesn’t exist to support your position.

ok so you cant dispute

[thinkingman]

@noSpaces

“When somebody’s president of the United States, the authority is total, and that’s the way it’s gotta be.” ----Donald Trump

“I take no responsibility at all.” ----Donald Trump

two separate statements taken out of context.

i bet you work for “tv newz”

[thinkingman]

@CanadianJudo

@thinkingman

@CanadianJudo

@thinkingman

@tnt

@thinkingman

“I like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them, because from a constitutional standpoint, that’s the way it should be done. If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it. But I’d rather have them — you can call it ‘federalist,’ you can call it ‘the Constitution,’ but I call it ‘the Constitution.’ I would rather have them make their decisions,”

He doesn’t have the authority to overrule them on their EOs.

if the EO’s run contrary to federal law, he can

what federal law gives President authority of shelter in place directives.

where does he say he is going to over-rule shelter in place directives?

what do you think he was talking about when he said that above quote.

not sure exactly what he means to over-rule

[thinkingman]

@tnt

@thinkingman

where does he say he is going to over-rule shelter in place directives?

how else would he open the economy?

not sure exactly

but he doesnt outright state he is over-ruling stay at home directives

[thinkingman]

“ federal law is supreme over state law in our system. And so, if there is an otherwise-constitutional federal law compelling an outcome that runs contrary to a state or local rule, the federal law prevails. “

https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-federal-government-override-state-government-rules-social-distancing-promote-economy

[tnt]

@thinkingman

ok so you cant dispute

I can’t dispute what you do not, or can not, show me.

So you assertion is unproven.

[thinkingman]

@tnt

@thinkingman

ok so you cant dispute

I can’t dispute what you do not, or can not, show me.

So you assertion is unproven.

you can disagree if you want

and btw i just posted something that supports my position

[tnt]

@thinkingman

not sure exactly

but he doesnt outright state he is over-ruling stay at home directives

What else could he possibly mean?

the economies of states are closed because of EO forcing people to stay home.

To open the economy those EOs would have to be recinded.