Coronavirus non-political

[WildRose]

It can’t, the whole testing thing was primarily just something to bitch about.

There’s talk now that recovered patients can continue to spread it by shedding for up to a month after recovery which complicates it even further.

[WildRose]

Cold weather also concentrates populations into enclosed warm places, the higher the concentration of people the more rapid the spread regardless of humidity levels.

[MoleUK]

@WildRose

Cold weather also concentrates populations into enclosed warm places, the higher the concentration of people the more rapid the spread regardless of humidity levels.

That too but from what I recall humidity is considered the primary factor now.

[WildRose]

Gov’t healthcare rationing at it’s best. Let the old die and concentrate resources on the young and productive.

[WildRose]

Regardless of the humidity levels your proximity to others is the primary factor.

[MoleUK]

@WildRose

Regardless of the humidity levels your proximity to others is the primary factor.

It’s definitely a big one.

I believe they were looking at low humidity levels potentially having a negative impact on the human immune system in general as well.

[WuWei]

@MoleUK

@WuWei

Nowhere on that page do I see any such numbers.

Are we talking about the NYT here?

Because the CDC isn’t listing daily cases on it’s main page, strangely.

No. The CDC link I gave. I’m not clicking on an F6 source. If NYT says that is a CDC graph, where is the graph on the CDC page?

[WildRose]

That doesn’t make sense. Low humidity does however dry out our mucous membranes which are one of the most important ways we have to prevent microbes from getting into our system to start with.

[WuWei]

@MoleUK

High levels mean the particles basically fall apart pretty quickly.

■■■■ I’m good.

[MoleUK]

@WuWei

■■■■ I’m good.

The flu virus, specifically. We don’t know if coronavirus will go the same way.

[MoleUK]

@WuWei

No. The CDC link I gave. I’m not clicking on an F6 source. If NYT says that is a CDC graph, where is the graph on the CDC page?

Hidden.

Which is interesting in and of itself.

[SottoVoce]

Healthcare is rationed everywhere.

In the US it is rationed by price and ability to pay. Other countries ration healthcare by other means. Pick your poison.

[WildRose]

I’ll pick the option that leaves me the most options.

[conan]

You know there is lot of truth to this.

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

Healthcare is rationed everywhere.

In the US it is rationed by price and ability to pay. Other countries ration healthcare by other means. Pick your poison.

Other means such as?

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Healthcare is rationed everywhere.

In the US it is rationed by price and ability to pay. Other countries ration healthcare by other means. Pick your poison.

Other means such as?

Availability. Cost-effectiveness.

[MoleUK]

Former FDA commissioner from '17-19, worth a readthrough:

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1238058027510575107

[MoleUK]

Schools out in France.

https://twitter.com/stefandevries/status/1238180578203230209

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Healthcare is rationed everywhere.

In the US it is rationed by price and ability to pay. Other countries ration healthcare by other means. Pick your poison.

Other means such as?

Availability. Cost-effectiveness.

The government is ubiquitous, why would availability be an issue.

Cost-effectiveness? By whose values?

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Healthcare is rationed everywhere.

In the US it is rationed by price and ability to pay. Other countries ration healthcare by other means. Pick your poison.

Other means such as?

Availability. Cost-effectiveness.

The government is ubiquitous, why would availability be an issue.

Cost-effectiveness? By whose values?

Healthcare is a resource. It does not have unlimited availability. There are only so many doctors, nurses, hospital beds, medicines, equipment, etc.

There are different metrics for evaluating cost effectiveness. The UK uses quality-adjusted life years. Private health insurers in the US all have their own methods, some more transparent then others.