Conservatives, are DeSantis and Abbot correct?

[zantax]

Examples of them getting away with violating the rights of individuals do not sway me.

[WorldWatcher]

@zantax

Examples of them getting away with violating the rights of individuals do not sway me.

Good to hear, then you should oppose DeSantis’s violating rights of property of employers.

Personally I’m consistent. I think both the Biden and DeSantis’s mandates requiring employers decisions are mot a good thing. The employer should be allowed to choose either way and simply required to inform the public (i.e. customers) about their decision to provide a safe environment or not.

WW

[tnt]

What about the rights of the business owners who do t want their employees or customers to spread Covid?

[gooddad409]

@Striker840

@tnt

@Striker840

Here you go @tnt

You clearly support “some sort of mandate”

Did you read the post that was in reply to?

here is the quote:

I’ve got mixed feelings about places of employment forcing their employees to get vaccinated or get fired.

Is that federal?

You support mandates, oh and yes I did. You have supported EVERY covid based rule since it first hit our shores.

Reminds me of that meme with the big bird and small bird.

The big one accusing the small one of throwing food on the floor. The small one denying it.

Then the big one saying you are doing it right now and the small one saying no i’m not.

[tnt]

@gooddad409

Reminds me of that meme with the big bird and small bird.

The big one accusing the small one of throwing food on the floor. The small one denying it.

Then the big one saying you are doing it right now and the small one saying no i’m not.

And yet no one has found a quote of me supporting Biden’s federal covid vaccine mandate…strange.

[zantax]

Maybe like me they don’t care enough to look.

[WuWei]

@WorldWatcher

By violating the rights of property of their residents (meaning businesses in that state) and mandating that employers cannot take steps to ensure the safety of their work force and customers.

Still same coin, two sides, but in this case violating the rights if employers is okey-dokey.

WW

How many businesses were mandating vaccines before Brandon’s OSHA Gambit?

[WuWei]

Yes.
…

[WorldWatcher]

@WuWei

Yes.
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Don’t provide the names, but please explain the nature of the business were the business doesn’t purchase or sell items across state lines?

Ponder if you will all the items it takes to run a business from:

• Raw materials (inputs)
• Products (outputs)
• Electronics (printers, phones, computers, routers, modems to an ISP)
• Software (Operating systems, word processor, spreadsheet, accounting, etc.)
• Consumables (paper, staples, pens, trash bags, folders, ledgers, gasoline, light bulbs, hell even electricity can cross state lines)
• Office Furnishings (chairs, desks, filing cabinets, shelving, storage cabinets, etc.)

Go ahead, just declare they don’t get anything that crosses state lines from external manufacturers even if they are buying from local suppliers (or selling to local suppliers) the supplies (or product) crosses state lines.

WW

[WuWei]

Thank you.

[WorldWatcher]

@WuWei

Thank you.

For pointing out the horse feathers possibility of a business with 100 or more employees not engaging in interstate commerce in some aspect?

You are absolutely welcome.

WW

[WuWei]

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

Thank you.

For pointing out the horse feathers possibility of a business with 100 or more employees not engaging in interstate commerce in some aspect?

You are absolutely welcome.

WW

For proving my point:

@WuWei

Can you think of any company that does not engage in some aspect of interstate commerce as defined by the central government?

[tnt]

I don’t think interstate commerce means you buy your supplies across state lines. I think it’s limited to the business you do. So a retail store would not conduct interstate commerce if it only has locations in one state, even if it buys supplies from other states.

so, 100 employees? No interstate commerce? Car dealerships? Landscapers? Grocery stores.

I think there would be some.

[zantax]

Are people under the impression the government owns any business that engages in interstate commerce or something?

[tnt]

@zantax

Are people under the impression the government owns any business that engages in interstate commerce or something?

I think it’s a constitutional question - the commerce clause allows for federal regulation of interstate businesses.

[zantax]

@tnt

@zantax

Are people under the impression the government owns any business that engages in interstate commerce or something?

I think it’s a constitutional question - the commerce clause allows for federal regulation of interstate businesses.

No, it allows for the regulation of interstate commerce.

[tnt]

Right. So I think some see it as a back door for the mandate to be constitutional. I don’t think it will work. But I assume that is the thinking.

[zantax]

@tnt

Right. So I think some see it as a back door for the mandate to be constitutional. I don’t think it will work. But I assume that is the thinking.

Because it isn’t constitutional, because the commerce clause doesn’t make the government the CEO of corporations engaged in said commerce.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@zantax

Are people under the impression the government owns any business that engages in interstate commerce or something?

I think it’s a constitutional question - the commerce clause allows for federal regulation of interstate businesses.

“Among the several states…”

[zantax]

@WuWei

@tnt

@zantax

Are people under the impression the government owns any business that engages in interstate commerce or something?

I think it’s a constitutional question - the commerce clause allows for federal regulation of interstate businesses.

“Among the several states…”

And not businesses, commerce.