Consenus in Jeopardy (Again)

[biggestal99]

@thinkingman

i dont see anyone making such idiotic declarations and even if they did it has nothing to do with using bad science to infringe on people’s rights

There are laws however that are based upon science.

And they infringe on peoples freedoms.

Allan

[thinkingman]

@biggestal99

@thinkingman

that doesnt mean other science is settled just because someone says so

True enough. It always takes a while for a fact to become settled.

Allan

thats not what that means

nice try

[thinkingman]

@biggestal99

@thinkingman

i dont see anyone making such idiotic declarations and even if they did it has nothing to do with using bad science to infringe on people’s rights

There are laws however that are based upon science.

And they infringe on peoples freedoms.

Allan

there are also freedoms based on science

[SixFoot]

@FloridaYankee

Oh look, another anti vaccine thread…

Libs would surely prefer 20 Kid Sniffer obsession threads per day, everyday, with every single whiny-ass post frantically ending in:

[biggestal99]

@thinkingman

thats not what that means

nice try

Oh sure it does.

Allan

[NJBob]

@thinkingman

@NJBob

@thinkingman

@JimmyC

If we didn’t need to determine what other people should do we’d have no need for laws. Who am I to determine someone shouldn’t rob or rape or kill me?

just because there are laws doesnt mean there shouldnt be freedom

Don’t laws, by their very nature, restrict people’s freedoms?

yes they do

Then isn’t obeying those laws the price we pay to live in a society?

That’s not mean we necessarily agree with all of these laws, but we are obligated to abide by them. Fortunately, in our society there is a means by which they can be changed lawfully.

[thinkingman]

@NJBob

@thinkingman

@NJBob

@thinkingman

@JimmyC

If we didn’t need to determine what other people should do we’d have no need for laws. Who am I to determine someone shouldn’t rob or rape or kill me?

just because there are laws doesnt mean there shouldnt be freedom

Don’t laws, by their very nature, restrict people’s freedoms?

yes they do

Then isn’t obeying those laws the price we pay to live in a society?

That’s not mean we necessarily agree with all of these laws, but we are obligated to abide by them. Fortunately, in our society there is a means by which they can be changed lawfully.

some laws yes of course. societies need laws

not arguing that

[NJBob]

@thinkingman

@NJBob

@thinkingman

@NJBob

@thinkingman

@JimmyC

If we didn’t need to determine what other people should do we’d have no need for laws. Who am I to determine someone shouldn’t rob or rape or kill me?

just because there are laws doesnt mean there shouldnt be freedom

Don’t laws, by their very nature, restrict people’s freedoms?

yes they do

Then isn’t obeying those laws the price we pay to live in a society?

That’s not mean we necessarily agree with all of these laws, but we are obligated to abide by them. Fortunately, in our society there is a means by which they can be changed lawfully.

some laws yes of course. societies need laws

not arguing that

And I believe some laws are stupid and should be eliminated.

I have a feeling you and I won’t fully agree on which ones should eliminated however.

[thinkingman]

@NJBob

I have a feeling you and I won’t fully agree on which ones should eliminated however.

you will agree if you are a fellow thinking man

[FloridaYankee]

@SixFoot

@FloridaYankee

Oh look, another anti vaccine thread…

Libs would surely prefer 20 Kid Sniffer obsession threads per day, everyday, with every single whiny-ass post frantically ending in:

Go for it!

[SixFoot]

Nah, I’m not capable of that level of manufactured psyhosis. Most normal people aren’t.

[Conservative_frk]

@Guvnah

If you’ve been vaxxed, you’ve done what you can. The unvaxxed guy who gets it bad is not your fault. It’s all on him. And it has no bearing on your health.

Who’s fault is it if you are both vax?

How about “ it’s your time?”

[JayJay]

@thinkingman

@NJBob

I have a feeling you and I won’t fully agree on which ones should eliminated however.

you will agree if you are a fellow thinking man

Dude for once stop it…you are just as biased as everyone else.

There is no purely objective way to figure out which laws we should have and which we shouldn’t.

It’s why the fight over these laws has occurred since before this nation was ever founded.

[thinkingman]

@JayJay

There is no purely objective way to figure out which laws we should have and which we shouldn’t.

it’s not a matter of being “objective” it’s a matter of what the benefit of the law is

[Guvnah]

@Conservative_frk

Who’s fault is it if you are both vax?

Biden and Fauci.

[JayJay]

@thinkingman

@JayJay

There is no purely objective way to figure out which laws we should have and which we shouldn’t.

it’s not a matter of being “objective” it’s a matter of what the benefit of the law is

It is a matter of being objective so you can figure out what the benefit is.

But again…you are no less biased than the rest of us.

[thinkingman]

@JayJay

@thinkingman

@JayJay

There is no purely objective way to figure out which laws we should have and which we shouldn’t.

it’s not a matter of being “objective” it’s a matter of what the benefit of the law is

It is a matter of being objective so you can figure out what the benefit is.

But again…you are no less biased than the rest of us.

i dont let my biases determine what laws i think are wrong

for instance, i never agreed with the govt banning smoking in restaurants even though i enjoy the results

you can factor out your bias. but only if you are a thinking man

[NJBob]

@JayJay

@thinkingman

@JayJay

There is no purely objective way to figure out which laws we should have and which we shouldn’t.

it’s not a matter of being “objective” it’s a matter of what the benefit of the law is

It is a matter of being objective so you can figure out what the benefit is.

But again…you are no less biased than the rest of us.

It’s completely subjective. It all depends on the moral standards one judges to be best.

And I think there is a general consensus among those of us that live in a Western society that informs us and gives us (a great deal of) common ground.

[WuWei]

@JayJay

It is a matter of being objective so you can figure out what the benefit is.

That’s wrong. Completely wrong.

[WuWei]

Good post Bob.