When was the last time he used cocaine? Everything I’ve found said that it refers to the prior year. Otherwise 75% of people under 35 can’t buy a gun ever
That’s interesting stuff. Psychology and behavior are interesting in general. Maybe I’ll pull it out again.
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WuWei
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You are incorrect.
And asking the wrong question.
WuWei
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Where in that question do you see the words “prior year”?

WuWei:

Paul_Do:

WuWei:
You are incorrect.
4473
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e
No YOU are incorrect.
Im almost positive it was decided in court cases that it only applies to the past year convictions. Otherwise if I shoot heroin for 10 years and decided to quit two days ago and buy a gun am I lying?
Also there is no physical addiction to cocaine. You are no more addicted to cocaine than cake. Coffee has physical withdrawal systems than cocaine. Is Cocaine Physically Addictive? Is It Mentally Addictive? Or Both?
The wording of the form is really dumb
No, I’m not incorrect. He was an unlawful user and knew it. And lied.
And that he knew it is provable.
That question has nothing to do with convictions.
The regulation states that a conviction for the use or possession of
controlled substances within the past year may be sufficient to show current unlawful use. Additionally,
multiple arrests for the use or possession of controlled substances in the past five years with the most
recent arrest occurring in the last year may be sufficient to indicate current unlawful use. 27 C.F.R. § 478.11.
This is how that question on the form was defined legally
WuWei
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That question has nothing to do with convictions.
Where in it do you see the word “conviction”?
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That is how the 4473 11e has been legally defined by the atf
According to the ATF:
*Such use is not limited to the use of drugs on a particular day, or within a matter of days or weeks before, but rather that the unlawful use has occurred recently enough to indicate that the individual is actively engaged in such conduct.An inference of current use may be drawn from evidence of a recent use or possession of a controlled substance or a pattern of use or possession that reasonably covers the present time, e.g., a conviction for use or possession of a controlled substance within the past year, or multiple arrests for such offenses within the past five years if the most recent arrest occurred within the past year
(95R-051P, Page 34637)
This is how the atf says you should check to see if you would qualify
https://www.thegoodgun.com/2017/09/17/guns-drugs-atf-form-4473-question-11e/
WuWei
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The ATF does not “legally define” ■■■■
The conviction question is 21 c
WuWei
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Is that the 2020 version?
Doesn’t matter. The question is worded the same. You see “conviction” in 11 e?
Having a gun in ones face makes for an easy hijacking.
Any thing else harder.
If terrorists can bring guns aboard without the nasty old tsa checking for them.
Why would they bring box cutters?
Allan
The old white mans line. It makes traveling by air lots easier.
Tourists don’t know how to pass tsa.
I always go light.
The 4 s socks, sneakers, shorts, and shirt.
No belt. No coins. No jewelry. Nothing metal.
Passing though TSA is a breeze.
Allan

biggestal99:
The old white mans line. It makes traveling by air lots easier.
Tourists don’t know how to pass tsa.
I always go light.
The 4 s socks, sneakers, shorts, and shirt.
No belt. No coins. No jewelry. Nothing metal.
Passing though TSA is a breeze.
Allan
We usually had three kids in tow.

WuWei:
How would you know?
Actually family friends hijacked a plane to Cuba in the 70s.
You be surprised what a gun in the face will make people do.
Allan
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Im assuming hunter used the older one so I looked it up but the wording is the same.
The use of conviction was not in the 11e question itself. When the ATF was asked to clarify the meaning of unlawful user/addict because it could apply to everyone or no one.
That is when the atf gave the definition of what would qualify as a unlawful user/addict. This definition is were they brought up a drug conviction within the last year.
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Paul_Do:
When the ATF was asked to clarify the meaning of unlawful user/addict because it could apply to everyone or no one.
That is when the atf gave the definition of what would qualify as a unlawful user/addict. This definition is were they brought up a drug conviction within the last year.
That is horse ■■■■■
That question is a trip up question. Everybody who uses the form knows it.