Congress vote to strip names of Confederate bases in veto-proof vote

[WildRose]

You failed to answer, what are next weeks Powerball Numbers?

We have the benefit of hindsight, they didn’t. They could not have possibly seen how rapidly agri-tech was going to advance by the end of the century.

[sikofit]

@Jezcoe

@sikofit

@WildRose

Right, everyone that cant’ see the future is “stupid”.

Give me next week’s powerball winning numbers.

You yourself said slavery was already on it’s way out. Why was the south too stupid to realize what the rest of the modern world already did?

It wasn’t on it’s way out. It was expanding in the 1860’s

It’s something that people tell themselves to feel okay about the lost cause.

Yeah wasn’t part of the South’s complaint that they weren’t being allowed to expand the slave trade into the western territories.

[WildRose]

Of course it was, the advances in Ag Tech made it inevitable.

The fact is that the devastation of the war probably delayed it by 20-30 years because it bankrupted the entire south which didn’t full recover economically for another century.

[Jezcoe]

@sikofit

@Jezcoe

@sikofit

@WildRose

Right, everyone that cant’ see the future is “stupid”.

Give me next week’s powerball winning numbers.

You yourself said slavery was already on it’s way out. Why was the south too stupid to realize what the rest of the modern world already did?

It wasn’t on it’s way out. It was expanding in the 1860’s

It’s something that people tell themselves to feel okay about the lost cause.

Yeah wasn’t part of the South’s complaint that they weren’t being allowed to expand the slave trade into the western territories.

When Jefferson Davis was the Secretary of War under Pierce he advocated for the invasion of Cuba to make it a Slave State.

They wanted to expand it.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

We have the benefit of hindsight, they didn’t. They could not have possibly seen how rapidly agri-tech was going to advance by the end of the century.

So then apparently slavery wasn’t on its last legs after all. It still had time left

I mean what is another generation of slaves? They would of been freed eventually

[WildRose]

Last legs doesn’t mean it’s going to die tomorrow. Within 10 years the need for slaves would have dropped dramatically and by the end of the century it would have made no sense at all due to advances in Ag Tech.

Compared to nearly 300 years of slavery that’s a flash in the pan.

[Jezcoe]

@WildRose

Of course it was, the advances in Ag Tech made it inevitable.

The fact is that the devastation of the war probably delayed it by 20-30 years because it bankrupted the entire south which didn’t full recover economically for another century.

Slave labor was used for more than agriculture.

There is always a bottomless resource for cheap labor.

[WildRose]

What area of slave labor was not being affected by advancements in Technology?

Ag workers by far made up the majority of slaves by several orders of magnitude.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

Last legs doesn’t mean it’s going to die tomorrow. Within 10 years the need for slaves would have dropped dramatically and by the end of the century it would have made no sense at all due to advances in Ag Tech.

End of the century…Yeah ■■■■ that. That’s a whole new generation of slaves.

[Jezcoe]

@WildRose

What area of slave labor was not being affected by advancements in Technology?

Ag workers by far made up the majority of slaves by several orders of magnitude.

That is correct.

Labor adapts with the needs of capital.

There is a bottomless well of need for cheap labor

Slave labor is pretty cheap.

[sikofit]

@Jezcoe

@WildRose

What area of slave labor was not being affected by advancements in Technology?

Ag workers by far made up the majority of slaves by several orders of magnitude.

That is correct.

Labor adapts with the needs of capital.

There is a bottomless well of need for cheap labor

Slave labor is pretty cheap.

Yeah the slaves would of been the new coal miners, factory workers and so on

[Jezcoe]

@sikofit

@WildRose

Last legs doesn’t mean it’s going to die tomorrow. Within 10 years the need for slaves would have dropped dramatically and by the end of the century it would have made no sense at all due to advances in Ag Tech.

End of the century…Yeah ■■■■ that. That’s a whole new generation of slaves.

Fun fact. During the Civil War the Confederacy worked to destabilize Mexico so they could have a path into expanding into Central America.

They were an expansionist slave state.

But really… it was the last legs.

[WildRose]

And another ten million people who would not have died in the war along with their offspring and the nation not remaining divided bitterly for another century and a half.

How many loved one’s did you lose in the war? Did they and their loved one’s think it was worth the sacrifice?

Never look at any issue from the eyes of those on the other side, you might accidentally learn something.

Of course, you folks cant’ go back and fight that war and stand on the courage of your convictions.

Those on both sides who fought it had to and 665,000 of them paid for it with their lives and tens of millions continued and continue to this day paying for it.

But never back away and consider another view point, you might learn something.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

Last legs doesn’t mean it’s going to die tomorrow. Within 10 years the need for slaves would have dropped dramatically and by the end of the century it would have made no sense at all due to advances in Ag Tech.

Compared to nearly 300 years of slavery that’s a flash in the pan.

Thanks for destroying your argument that the war wasn’t worth it.

[WildRose]

The US had been working to destabilize Mexico for purposes of eventually defeating them and annexing the territory since shortly after the founding.

[WildRose]

I of course did no such thing but again, never back away and look at an issue from a different position because you might learn something.

[sikofit]

@Jezcoe

@sikofit

@WildRose

Last legs doesn’t mean it’s going to die tomorrow. Within 10 years the need for slaves would have dropped dramatically and by the end of the century it would have made no sense at all due to advances in Ag Tech.

End of the century…Yeah ■■■■ that. That’s a whole new generation of slaves.

Fun fact. During the Civil War the Confederacy worked to destabilize Mexico so they could have a path into expanding into Central America.

They were an expansionist slave state.

But really… it was the last legs.

Pesky facts.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

How many loved one’s did you lose in the war? Did they and their loved one’s think it was worth the sacrifice?

I had relatives on my dad’s side in Alabama who died for the Confederacy. They might of believed in their cause but they were wrong and are now rotting in hell. Societal norms do not dictate what is a sin and what is not

[Jezcoe]

@WildRose

The US had been working to destabilize Mexico for purposes of eventually defeating them and annexing the territory since shortly after the founding.

Yes.

The US up until the late 1850’s and the birth of the GOP was pretty enthralled with keeping the slave owners happy.

The internal battles of the US being an expansionist Power wasn’t about whether or not the nation should be expansionist, it was over how much of that expansion would go to slave states and free states.

The Confederacy, being 100% a slave state and expansionist would have worked to expand slavery into new territories.

Slavery was by no means on it’s way out.

[Jezcoe]

@sikofit

@WildRose

How many loved one’s did you lose in the war? Did they and their loved one’s think it was worth the sacrifice?

I had relatives on my dad’s side in Alabama who died for the Confederacy. They might of believed in their cause but they were wrong and are now rotting in hell. Societal norms do not dictate what is an evil sin and what is not

One branch of my family were Tories and couple generations later Confederates.

I have no problem saying that they fought for the wrong side.

No skin off of my teeth.