Conceal and carry situation quiz

bigtwnvin · 2020-05-21T19:37:22.689Z

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The person in scenario 1 shouldn’t be carrying a firearm regardless of their ability to pass a background check.

Samm · 2020-05-21T21:58:36.491Z

bigtwnvin:

The person in scenario 1 shouldn’t be carrying a firearm regardless of their ability to pass a background check.

But given the real world track record of concealed carry permitees, scenario #1 is extremely unlikely. It is a unrealistic hypothetical presented in an attempt to make a biased political point.

WuWei · 2020-05-21T22:11:23.179Z

It’s not “concealed and carry”.

Samm · 2020-05-22T03:41:06.394Z

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WuWei · 2020-05-22T04:54:01.099Z

Samm:

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anon91495210 · 2020-05-22T12:38:16.317Z

I conceal my firearm and carry it every day. Conceal and carry!

gooddad409 · 2020-05-22T13:45:26.929Z

anon91495210:

Guess I’m in that 10-20%… I carry everywhere except my office and only because I like my job and they have a 30.06 sign up.

I’d suspect it would be higher than that if people were honest. My wife carries in her purse always and she’d be the last one I’d expect to carry if I only knew her a little.

I have a sister who carries in her purse as well.

WildRose · 2020-05-30T12:59:15.083Z

“Carry”, “Open Carry”, “Concealed Carry”, “Conceal and Carry”.

Nemesis · 2020-05-30T18:13:03.299Z

WildRose:

Same here but then it’s part of my profession.

NRA, USCCA, and several other advocacy groups have done extensive polling on the subject and those who carry constantly are a very small minority.

As for your work situation that comes up in classes, seminars, online discussions pretty frequently. As a rule the advice is “concealed means concealed”. If you are at any sort of elevated risk at work the worst they could do is fire you and have you trespassed off the property unless it’s a school, hospital, PO etc.

Great advice. Go get fired.

markdido · 2020-05-30T18:38:31.960Z

Nemesis:

WildRose:

Same here but then it’s part of my profession.

NRA, USCCA, and several other advocacy groups have done extensive polling on the subject and those who carry constantly are a very small minority.

As for your work situation that comes up in classes, seminars, online discussions pretty frequently. As a rule the advice is “concealed means concealed”. If you are at any sort of elevated risk at work the worst they could do is fire you and have you trespassed off the property unless it’s a school, hospital, PO etc.

Great advice. Go get fired.

Fired is better than dead.

Ask any convenience store clerk who had to use deadly force to defend himself while at work.

Corporate doesn’t give a crap about the worker, just the liability.

Nemesis · 2020-05-30T18:48:13.417Z

markdido:

Nemesis:

WildRose:

Same here but then it’s part of my profession.

NRA, USCCA, and several other advocacy groups have done extensive polling on the subject and those who carry constantly are a very small minority.

As for your work situation that comes up in classes, seminars, online discussions pretty frequently. As a rule the advice is “concealed means concealed”. If you are at any sort of elevated risk at work the worst they could do is fire you and have you trespassed off the property unless it’s a school, hospital, PO etc.

Great advice. Go get fired.

Fired is better than dead.

Ask any convenience store clerk who had to use deadly force to defend himself while at work.

Corporate doesn’t give a crap about the worker, just the liability.

How do you know that every corporate head office does not give a crap sbouf the worker. I work in a corporate head office and we very much give a crap about every worker.

WildRose · 2020-05-30T19:19:51.504Z

Mostly it’s about insurance. It costs them less if you get killed or wounded than if you kill or wound a perp.

WildRose · 2020-05-30T19:22:09.107Z

The key word is “concealed”.

Remember the psychiatrist a few years ago who had to defend himself from an armed, crazed patient?

He’d been carrying for years and nobody had a clue.

You can always find another job but knife and bullet wounds are permanent.

WildRose · 2020-05-30T19:23:25.911Z

That is the worst way a woman can carry.

If she’s going to purse carry she really should look at getting a purse specifically made for carry with cut proof straps and a dedicated weapons pocket with a proper built in holster.

Nemesis · 2020-05-30T19:41:46.816Z

WildRose:

Mostly it’s about insurance. It costs them less if you get killed or wounded than if you kill or wound a perp.

How do you figure that out? If I get shot and killed at work then how is my family suing my employer any less of a liability???

WildRose · 2020-05-30T19:42:58.636Z

They have no duty to protect you.

Nemesis · 2020-05-30T19:44:45.925Z

WildRose:

They have no duty to protect you.

They have a duty to provide a safe workplace.

But that aside no employer has less liability for an employee who is killed at work as someone who is committing a crime on their premises.

WildRose · 2020-05-30T19:47:27.772Z

No, they have a duty to provide a work place that is “reasonably” safe and meets code.

Is there anything in your state’s or city’s codes requiring they armor their work places and provided armed security to defend you from all possible threats?

Of course not.

If they could be held liable for failing to do so work place restrictions on carry would vaporize over night.

Nemesis · 2020-05-30T20:12:34.326Z

You claimed the employer has more liability for someone killed while committing a criminal act than an employee killed by an employee. Which is not true.

WildRose · 2020-05-31T05:04:38.928Z

Yes I did because it is true.

They have no responsibility to protect you from robberies or grudge killers and thus as such have very little liability if you are wounded or killed at work.

If however an employee wounds or kills someone they have massive liability.