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It’s not fair for Donald! Not fair!

This thread is a glorious dumpster fire of fun :+1:

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The two budgets that the administration sent to Congress had across the board cuts to all health organizations. And both times the Congress said no and increased their budgets.

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How do you not know that Trump only did that in order to Brer Rabbit Congress into doing the right thing. I’m sure he wanted to increase it but realized that the never Trumpers would turn it down if he asked for it…or something

So you’re saying even with increased budget that congress gave them they still couldn’t get those test out in timely fashion…is that what you’re saying?

So in fact not only were no cuts made, their budgets were increased each time.

Nope. Only pointing out that it was Congress and not the administration that was responsible for their funding levels.

So with increased funding they still screwed up the test kits, still screwed up planing etc…and had contaminated labs.

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Who signs budget bills into law?

You guys will always find a way to give Donald a pat on the back.

Budgets are always the product of negotiations, Trump signed that budget into law or they would have nothing.

I asked a question which seemed reasonable since it appeared you thought budgets were put into place solely by Congress.

If billions are approved for coronavirus, then there is a question as to whether there would be any point in declaring a national emergency. What would be the point?

"But with Congress slated to approve $8 billion in funding to fight the coronavirus, is an emergency declaration necessary? Michael A. Coen, who served as the agency’s chief of staff during the Obama presidency, thinks it might be worth waiting to see how the epidemic develops.

“FEMA is already fully extended supporting Puerto Rico and other recoveries across the country,” Coen said, referencing the devastation caused on that island in 2017 by Hurricane Maria.

He also mentioned the tornado that devastated parts of Tennessee on Monday night as an example of where FEMA should be focusing its resources."

Facts remain, even with congress increasing CDC budget they failed big time in getting those test kits out, failed to have labs up and running…and possibly failed having clean labs that might have contaminated the first tests.

It sounds like they are run by humans.

An emergency declaration does more than involve FEMA, it free up federal emergency management dollars that can be used for a declared emergency and money can also be shifted from other programs for same.

And that was the question raised in the article. If they can get all they need from Congress, why shift anything?

We’d have to wait on a congress not inclined to do anything quickly especially if it will make this president look good.

The emergency declaration has no waiting period.

Or that they are run by people who did not have the requisite experience, because those folks had been fired by Trump two years before.

This is the USA. American ingenuity and know-how should be at the forefront, instead of incompetence.

Rose, you comment frequently on the fact that the US just didn’t have enough tests. Well, they would have done, if they hadn’t insisted on creating their own tests instead of using the one that would have been happily supplied by WHO.

Public health experts say the CDC’s first critical misstep was opting to create its own testing kit rather than use one provided by the World Health Organization, ProPublica reported.