530

That’s funny.

531

Just my two cents, but I don’t see where Safiel besmirched, degraded or otherwise insulted Navy sailors or by extent any military members with what he said.

Bottom line is on port calls, sailors WILL go out and play…whether that means bar hopping, hooking up with men/women, visiting “that” part of town or any of an assortment of normal everyday activity for people of their typical age group.
And there ain’t a damn thing wrong with it. And yes, some of those activities will put them at a higher risk for catching something, that doesn’t mean it’s their fault… sometimes ■■■■ just happens.

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532

We should never have been involved in the Vietnam War. It was an absolute disgrace “all the way with LBJ”. It took a centre left Labor government to get us out of Vietnam.

533

I really wasn’t going into the issue of the Vietnam War earlier.

Vietnam is an important friend and ally of the United States today and a vital link in counterbalancing the People’s Republic of China.

The Vietnamese (the ones in Vietnam) got over the war a long time ago and most Americans have gotten over it.

Frankly, the only people living in the past are expatriate Vietnamese mostly living in California that just cannot grasp the fact that the war has been over for 45 years. :smile:

534

Yes, it says I make up my own mind instead of following the bleating herd.

535

Saf never fails to take a ■■■■ on the Navy at every opportunity.

Strange for someone who never served… .

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536

Absolutely. It would be a severe morale killer though.

537

Can be but that would be an exceptionally rare occurrence and there would have to be very good reason for it. Keeping up morale is a major consideration.

538

Or it means your opinion is so fringe that not a single other person agrees with it. And therefore the opinion should be treated as the fringe extreme that it represents.

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539

It is being reported that the number of people that the ex-navy secretary claimed were cc’ed in the captain’s email had been exaggerated by him. There appears to be mounting evidence that the captain’s actions were valid and in the best interests of his crew. Surely, with this mounting evidence he needs to be re-instated after he has recovered from the coronavirus.

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540

Looks like Captain Crozier may just be returning to his post.

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541

@WildRose won’t like this.

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543

You’re telling me the guy who gave the wildly inappropriate speech to the ship’s crew about the firing may have been lying the whole time? Well I’ll be.

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544

Thank you Bro

545

Shocking, isn’t it?

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546

Well…Trump wanted him back so the Navy never really had a choice.

If they’d stuck to their guns Trump would have just interfered like he always does and showed them up. So they bowed down to him.

547

But, but, but we were told it was such an egregious breach of protocol.

548

What’s truly entertaining is that you think your opinion of my opinion matters at all.

549

That isn’t what he said.

“It will come to me at some point in time. As I’m in the chain of command, I can’t comment on that further, but I’ve got to keep an open mind with regard to everything,” Esper said.

“We’ve got to take this one step at a time, let the investigation within the Navy conclude itself … and we’ll make very reasoned opinions and judgments as this progresses,” he said.

550

"The obscured picture of where the virus first boarded the vessel clarified slightly when one Navy official, speaking on background, told Navy Times that incoming crews performing routine supply flight operations were the likely culprits — not a port call in Da Nang, Vietnam, as previously believed.

This theory, which was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, was developed after learning that the first sailors to exhibit symptoms did so more than 2 weeks after the ship departed Vietnam, a span in excess of the virus’ incubation period."

Yeah, it was definitely the hookers…