Colorado commission has Masterpiece Bakery in its crosshairs again

[Axxowiz]

Wow 1600 comments about a transgender cake. This is the conversations will be having in the west whether someone should have a cake baked for them who is polygender cis transgender when the mullahs decide to nuke us.

[reflechissez]

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

But hey, I encourage you to find a black tattoo artist doing custom tattoo’s and go in and ask him to give you a tattoo consisting of some squiggly lines that you claim represents whites superiority over black people and see if he submits to your request.

No white person would do that. Let’s move on to the next irrelevant analogy.

Absurd, how do you know what every white person would or wouldn’t do?

You certainly feel confident in stating what every black person would or wouldn’t do. Goose…gander.

[zantax]

@reflechissez

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

But hey, I encourage you to find a black tattoo artist doing custom tattoo’s and go in and ask him to give you a tattoo consisting of some squiggly lines that you claim represents whites superiority over black people and see if he submits to your request.

No white person would do that. Let’s move on to the next irrelevant analogy.

Absurd, how do you know what every white person would or wouldn’t do?

You certainly feel confident in stating what every black person would or wouldn’t do. Goose…gander.

If you were capable of honesty you could admit you would never expect a black barber to comply with a request for a KKK haircut regardless of whether he complied or not. That instead you would enthusiastically and vigorously defend his right not to on the basis of the request being offensive to him.

[PurpnGold]

For the 1000th time…

The KKK is not a protected class. As a black man I can discriminate all day towards a member of the KKK. I am not violating any laws.

[calirepub]

Last I checked, celebrations for people of a protected classes is not a protected class. The baker wasn’t refusing service because of the person’s race/sex/gender, the baker was refusing service because the person wanted to celebrate their race/sex/gender.

If the customer had ordered a type of cake the baker offers, there would have been no problem.

[SaysWho]

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

But hey, I encourage you to find a black tattoo artist doing custom tattoo’s and go in and ask him to give you a tattoo consisting of some squiggly lines that you claim represents whites superiority over black people and see if he submits to your request.

No white person would do that. Let’s move on to the next irrelevant analogy.

Absurd, how do you know what every white person would or wouldn’t do?

You certainly feel confident in stating what every black person would or wouldn’t do. Goose…gander.

If you were capable of honesty you could admit you would never expect a black barber to comply with a request for a KKK haircut regardless of whether he complied or not. That instead you would enthusiastically and vigorously defend his right not to on the basis of the request being offensive to him.

Unlike you, we are capable of seeing the difference between a person who chooses to participate in a group that wants to ethnically cleanse all blacks, jews, gays, etc… from the face of the earth and someone who is more comfortable being called “him” instead of “her.”

We’re actually being pretty patient with you.

[mobulis]

@Guvnah

To him, creating art for it most certainly is.

And you knew that already.

Except its not.

[reflechissez]

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

But hey, I encourage you to find a black tattoo artist doing custom tattoo’s and go in and ask him to give you a tattoo consisting of some squiggly lines that you claim represents whites superiority over black people and see if he submits to your request.

No white person would do that. Let’s move on to the next irrelevant analogy.

Absurd, how do you know what every white person would or wouldn’t do?

You certainly feel confident in stating what every black person would or wouldn’t do. Goose…gander.

If you were capable of honesty you could admit you would never expect a black barber to comply with a request for a KKK haircut regardless of whether he complied or not. That instead you would enthusiastically and vigorously defend his right not to on the basis of the request being offensive to him.

Dude, you are attempting to speak for all black people and have the nerve to ask me how I would know what every white person would or wouldn’t do? All you did is repeat yourself.

[Axxowiz]

What is a protected class? Do you mean employment discrimination, based on sex and color?

[party-free]

@DMK

Welcome to the world of the Baker

No, he will no have participated.

[party-free]

@DMK

To the transgender lawyer or to the baker?

What does any color represent to anyone?

[party-free]

They haven’t been addressed-they’ve been brushed aside because they demolish your point.

Anyone can interpret any way they want. Because a customer holds a meaning for a certain item does not necessitate the producer also hold that meaning for the cake.

[party-free]

@DMK

And so you disregard that the baker believes the eternity of his soul is on the line? Therefore, it is more important that a transgender lawyer harass a man who poses no threat to anyone but for their insecurities?

There was no harassment. Simply a request to bake a blue and pink cake.

If that threatens his soul, and he’s also not screening EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER who comes through his door to make sure they’re not going to be using his cake in a way that might also threaten his soul, then those beliefs can’t possibly considered 'deeply held." “Selective” is the word you’re looking for.

[party-free]

@Guvnah

Those are your words. Not mine. If you believe that, defend it.

I’m simply using your logic.

@Guvnah

You sound unhinged.

PLEASE STOP YOUR ABUSE OF GUEST. ADDRESS THE POST NOT THE POSTER.

[party-free]

@Guvnah

The link about the gun maker getting sued was in response to a request for examples wherein lawyers get involved. The spirit of the statement was that people sue.

No, No, and No.

I asked for examples from @DMK in which a product maker was held responsible for how their product was used after it left their ownership.

Being sued does not connote that. Please keep up with what is being discussed.

[party-free]

@Guvnah

I satisfied the request for an example. It showed a direct example of what DMK was referring to.

No, you didn’t. His response was in direct response to me asking for examples-what @DMK was referring to was a goalpost move from the point I was making.

@Guvnah

Now you have changed it to “participation”. This is another example of why I consider your posts disingenuous.

I didn’t change it to that. You mentioned participation, so i addressed it. I didn’t change anything-I simply responded to something you said. Again, please keep up.

YOU mentioned participation here first to me:

@Guvnah

Whether or not a governmental law exonerates a proprietor of the consumer’s future use does not change what a religious moral tenet says about participation in an immoral act.

I simply responded to that point. No need. Don’t dare accuse me of being disingenuous when I was simply responding to something YOU stated.

@Guvnah

You do not get to determine whether someone’s religious tenets considers a contribution (at any level) to be participation in something immoral. Nor does the government. What Smith&Wesson is doing to defend against the example lawsuit has no bearing on that.

Sure it does. It proves the point quite well. The US legal system is not a church.

[party-free]

@zantax

Actually he does, if he had prior knowledge of what the gun was to be used for he can be held liable for damages.

I’ve already addressed that it’s not valid to compare a premeditated illegal act using a gun to a baker baking a blue/pink cake for a non-illegal act.

[Joanne]

@party-free

The CRA forced business owners to do something some of them considered immoral. So, since you believe that what is happening to the baker is reprehensible, logically, what Rosa Parks did was reprehensible. How dare we force white restaurant owners to serve blacks against their deeply held beliefs!

This is a ridiculous argument. Your example is about absolute racism, which is certainly not condoned in the Bible.

We are talking about deeply held RELIGIOUS beliefs of the baker.

Big difference.

[Joanne]

@party-free

PLEASE STOP YOUR ABUSE OF GUEST. ADDRESS THE POST NOT THE POSTER.

And will you start taking your own advice?

[zantax]

@SaysWho

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

@reflechissez

@zantax

But hey, I encourage you to find a black tattoo artist doing custom tattoo’s and go in and ask him to give you a tattoo consisting of some squiggly lines that you claim represents whites superiority over black people and see if he submits to your request.

No white person would do that. Let’s move on to the next irrelevant analogy.

Absurd, how do you know what every white person would or wouldn’t do?

You certainly feel confident in stating what every black person would or wouldn’t do. Goose…gander.

If you were capable of honesty you could admit you would never expect a black barber to comply with a request for a KKK haircut regardless of whether he complied or not. That instead you would enthusiastically and vigorously defend his right not to on the basis of the request being offensive to him.

Unlike you, we are capable of seeing the difference between a person who chooses to participate in a group that wants to ethnically cleanse all blacks, jews, gays, etc… from the face of the earth and someone who is more comfortable being called “him” instead of “her.”

We’re actually being pretty patient with you.

Well, it is nice to have you admit the real problem here. You think it’s fine to refuse a customers request if you agree with the moral objection raised but not if you don’t and apparently can’t see the problem with that.