if all else fail join a labor union, get paid good money to do nothing.

Granted. Depends on the stage and the order I guess. I made more than that, but I wasn’t wet behind the ears, either.

I mean the stage at graduation.

As in, it’s quite a lot of money to make with zero actual experience in the field.

Best friend’s wife pulls in just shy of $200k a year, running production for a pharma research outfit. Works in Waltham, which will mean something to people with a Boston connection. He’s retired, because he is a real estate sorceror and has been spending other people’s money for three decades.

He grew up evangelical poor, she in the former CCCP. So, they’re a special case in their relationship to $.

But, on just her dollars alone, in a pricey NH bedroom town, they do just fine.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

So back to this program, does it work? Has it made a difference?

If you were $400k in debt, about how long would it take you to pay it off? How long do they give you?

Like me. No debt either. Lots and lots of vacation time too.

White shoe firms are hell. Unless you are in your mid twenties out of law school getting into one is hell imo

It depends. I don’t really know much about how it all works, because I don’t really have any debt of my own.

They don’t time you.

At least my loans didn’t have an end date until Obama (i think it was part of Obamacare) income based repayment. You pay some portion of your salary and then after 25 (could be less or more years) the rest is forgiven.

Yeah, that’s why it’s never been my plan. I didn’t start law school until I was already a couple of years past 30.

Yeah i was 24 when i started but i knew pretty fast i didn’t want that kind if life. Not that what i do is glamorous but it’s fun and well i don’t want to get more personal than that, it makes life comfortable.

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If I were in charge I’d have employers requiring degrees pay books and tuition then make it tax deductible for those employers as a cost of doing business. Probably makes too much sense though to actually work.

Kind of like Apprenticeship! Yes! Absolutely

If it’s a job requirement? Why shouldn’t they pay for it? They’re the ones making it a requirement.

I def agree. I think same with business schools.

You pay on it for 25 years?

If you were 25 and coming out with $400k debt, would you go work on an Indian res or poor area for $50k a year for 8 years and your debt wiped clean?

I like it, but why wouldn’t I just hire somebody who already has the degree?

Nothing says you can’t. Nothing says they couldn’t demand more money either.

And with certain jobs, it isn’t just one degree, but continuing education that’s required in order to keep certification. Which makes sense for a lot of industries anyway. I work in R&D. You think we hire people with degrees they got thirty years ago to work on new technology?