What does my personal responsibility have to do with Trump? I have never figured out what big gotcha the left think they are playing with this card.
I only have personal responsibility over my life.
Seems the left have played the shaming card one to many times and the right have learned not to play along.
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The post-convention polls are in, and they consistently show Hillary Clinton entering the next phase of the presidential election campaign with the upper hand over Donald Trump.
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That article was three months before the election.
How about a Clinton 14 point lead about 2 weeks before the election?
However, although I am going for Trump, I am not going to assume all these polls are false. Things are going bad in polls. Right now, I think Biden would win, however, there is a lot of time and advertising to go. If in October it is like it is now, not good for Trump. However, lots of time.to go. so almost 5 months in advance too much time. Dukakis had a 17 point lead in polls in July 1988 and was wiped out. I don’t take for granted that Trump will automatically overtake him. I think there are a lot of weaknesses in Biden’s policies to exploit. However, will he do so, and overcome the pushback? Not sure.
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But you never had a bad word to say about Obama who blamed Bush for eight years.
It’s fun watching the same people who were silent under Obama pointing fingers at Trump. And watching them find excuses for voting for someone they claim to not agree with.
Funny that all these so called Republicans have never meant a conservative idea they could support.
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Haters got to hate.
The same people who hate Trump hated the teaparty
Some people have such hate that they are willing to give up what they say they stand for to punish people who let their voices be heard.
Me I am willing to work with these people and maybe we can accomplish something besides giving in to the left.
People talk about the big tent. I say lets pack the tent to the ceiling. But the Rinos think only a certain type of people should be let into the tent, Than they wonder why they lose all the time.
tnt
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proof that car deaths are being counted and DOVID deaths?
I supported the tea party in the beginning. I give up what I stand for because I have a moral compass. My political ideology will not allow me to support an immoral person like Trump. It’s just that simple. I’m not an Obama /clinton supporter…i more than likely will support the most PRESIDENTIAL candidate. And that won’t be Trump. You go right ahead and support Trump…and put your standards in a paper bag and light it on fire. I can’t go down that road.
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Same here. For the first 2 or 3 years, I regularly attended tea party meetings and rallies. Granted, after many in that crowd went for Trump, I disassociated myself with them. I decided if that was the path they wished to pursue, they could do so without me.
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In the beginning than you bought into the leftist hate and turned on the very people who supported conservative ideas. We are still here if you don’t know. We are still working to change things from the bottom up. But just like Trump supporters we deserve hate because we did not act just how you wanted us to.
I embrace the Trump supporters. I have more in common with them than the left. I know the GOP needs these people to get anything done. And I know that like me they deserve to have a voice and not be silenced.
You go ahead and support the immoral left. I sure that some way you can rationalize supporting people who believe that it’s fine to kill a baby even at the moment of birth and have a moral compass.
Turn this country into a socialist paradise because of hate.
Put your conservative standards in a bag and light them on fire for the left because of hate.
When you no longer have 2nd amendment rights. When you no longer can say or post what you want because its considered hate speech. When you no longer get to make decisions about your own health. When you no longer get to keep half of your pay check I’m sure you will have comfort in knowing you have your morals intact.
I will know I have my morals intact by knowing I in no way helped the leftist achieve their wildest dreams. I will go down the road to more freedom and more rights. It’s just that simple.
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Yes…I am against giving up more and more and more and more. It had to stop and Trump has stopped it. China is hurting right now but it still may not be enough for them to place their pride aside and come to the bargaining table for an honest deal and do not continue their methodology of theft.
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Where did I say it had anything to do with Trump?
The person to which I responded blamed “the Libs” for Trump.
“The Libs” didn’t vote for Trump.
Trump supporters voted for Trump. So they and they alone are responsible for Trump being President.
And this has become a pattern when things aren’t going so well. The members of the Party of Personal Responsibility are always looking to blame anyone other than themselves or the people they support.
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JayJay
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That’s an oldie but a goodie.
The Trump Campaign knows Joe will show just how severe is mental decline is and that he’ll melt down in the debates so of course they want as many as possible.
Sounds like CNN Knows full well Joe’s weakness and are now running scared of having to put him on stage at all much less in a long series of one on one debates with Trump.
You throw around the word hate like you know what is in my heart. I don’t hate you…i don’t hate Trump. I have a philosophical difference of opinion. You can’t phathom that I might just be for treating all people nicely, that people should be treated with respect.
That is something Trump is incapable of doing! I cannot support that. You look at that as hatred? I suggest you have the problem not me.
You are the one who says you will put up with Trump to get some political goals accomplished and the belittle me for not falling on my knees to him. I would rather fall on my sword, then genuflect before him.
A slightly greater president would maybe be a part of a weekly service at the National Cathedral honoring and me moralizing the lives lost at the hands of COVID 19. This President is too busy golfing on the weekends to do so. Too busy blaming others for his mistakes.
No I don’t hate him or you or any other TrumpCons here. I won’t wrap my arms around a man or his beliefs, that are so antithetical to human decency and kindness. I simply wonder why you and so many others do?
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I already can’t say or post what I like. That’s not freedom of speech protection anyway. We have forum rules…that are a violation of freedom of speech…but its a private forum so rules apply. I get that I have no 1st amendment rights here…do you?
First debate?
Plenty of Orville Redenbacher in the pantry.
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No the GOP doesn’t need those people to get things done.
They do need them to win elections though which is why they…wait for it…pander to them.
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“Fox Too What”?
Are they saying it’s a sign of desperation by the Trump Campaign?
I think everyone in the country knows Joe’s chances of surviving multiple debates are slim to none and if that proves to be the case it will be the best thing for the country in the long run.
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JayJay
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There are already going to be multiple debates.
And again…this is a change from a few short months ago when Trump indicated he might sit out all of the debates.
