I don’t think you are talking about the same thing. We were discussing wins where more people vote against the winner than vote for him… like Bill Clinton in 1992.
DMK
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Really? The Party of Personal Responsibility?
That is hilarious.
Do go on. Please!
Smyrna
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Then…you’ll have to explain to me why he was voted back into office and…I can’t wait to hear your whiny answer. 
DMK
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Erp. Okay. Someone said something. 
Smyrna
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Ambulance driver; these four died in a car crash
Coroner; we’ll count it as COVID
You; Fat Donald’s failure has led to 120,000 dead Americans.
Me; …and the sheople continue to eat and regurgibleet what they’re fed.
You have as much recent political experience as anyone else here. What does it mean when a candidate starts demanding more debates? Does the candidate comfortably ahead typically seek to have more?
JayJay
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So you’re admitting when today’s conservatives proclaim they are all about personal responsibility, they are full of ■■■■■
That’s some good honesty there…
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Nobody really does this unless the other candidate is actively avoiding debating. So this is a Hail Mary pass I guess? Trump figures he’s best on his feet in front of a camera?
I mean the idea comes from Kushner and Giuliani so “effective” and “sane” may not be the metrics here.
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What do you think about this one brother?
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Parscale isn’t a campaign manager. He isn’t even a political operative. ■■■■ he isn’t even a data nerd. He’s a website designer.
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Who has worked Trump over and gained himself a Ferarri, a Range Rover, a $400,000 boat, two million dollar condos and a $2.4 million waterfront house in Fort Lauderdale. Which is hilarious to me!
You see, Trump had the benefit of the doubt going for him in 2016. All doubt is gone now. Long gone. This time around he won’t even have “the devil we don’t” going for him. We know both devils and he’s so bad at this his own party is drumming up support for the opposition.
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Everybody seems to forget that he was chums with the Clintons and donated to their campaigns while Bill was in office. That was before the dark times, before the Hillary.
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That is exactly correct. I get the urge to reflect on 2016 and the razor-thin victory for his supporters. But the reality is Biden isn’t Hillary. And 2020 isn’t 2016. And like you astutely pointed out, Trump is no longer an unknown quantity. His cultists will deny it until they are blue. But that’s what makes them part of the cult. Those with perspective will see the reality of him being in serious trouble when it comes to re-election.
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No big. He’ll just claim it was rigged. Again.
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Trump is not a conservative or a leftist.
He is what I would call an independent. Someone that a lot of people have been claiming to want for years. If the left worked with him instead of against him they could have achieved some of the goals they want. Just like if the Rinos worked with him instead of against him they could have achieved some of the goals they want. Conservatives have worked with him and they have achieved some of their goals.
As for me I have used him to get a few things done.
Trump was not my first choice in 2016?
I have said that since he was my last choice that I accepted that the voters had chosen him and that I would work with what I was given to achieve conservative goals.
I will not throw my principles out the window and join the leftist.I stand by my principles
Seems there are a lot of people claiming to be conservative who have never meant a conservative they could support. Seems there ae a lot of people claiming to be a conservative who never once support a conservative idea.
It’s easy to pick these people out. They defend every leftist out there. They defend every leftist politician. They defend every leftist idea.
But you will never see them support one conservative idea or elected official.
Sorry but your only taking a few life long fake republicans with you. Rino’s.
We like it that you are finally supporting the party you belong to.
It’s the never Trumper’s who have been bringing the party to ruin since Reagan.
We know who these Rinos’ are. They like caving to the left. They like going after anyone who supports and stands up for conservative ideas. Main reason is they have never been conservatives to begin with.
These are the same people who could not stand Reagan and worked against him. And have been working against conservatives ever since.
We life long conservatives have decided enough is enough. That the never Trumper’s have ruined the party for long enough. We life long conservatives with be the ones to shine a light on the fake conservatives and kick them to the party they really belong to.
We will rebuild the conservative party to the party of smaller federal government, more freedom, a stronger 2nd amendment, less spending, the unborn’s right to be born and not murdered, pro small business, ect.
We will be bold colors. We will no longer give in to the leftist and accept crumbs.
But you never had a bad word to say about Obama who blamed Bush for eight years.
It’s fun watching the same people who were silent under Obama pointing fingers at Trump. And watching them find excuses for voting for someone they claim to not agree with.
Funny that all these so called Republicans have never meant a conservative idea they could support.
I criticized Obama all the time when he was president. But let’s not let silly things like facts get in the way of a good rant
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