CNBC: "There isn’t enough copper in the world — and the shortage could last till 2030"

SixFoot · 2023-02-13T22:51:38.301Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Does it have to be copper? What about aluminum?

The 5 most electrically conductive metals:

Silver
Copper
Gold
Aluminum
Zinc

And then there’s the meth heads mentioned earlier. lol

Supreme_War_Pig · 2023-02-13T23:13:25.758Z

Safiel:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Does it have to be copper? What about aluminum?

A LOT of burned down houses, courtesy of aluminum wiring.

I don’t think we want to go there.

Hmmm.

Gaius · 2023-02-13T23:23:22.137Z

Ya gotta admit, my idea is way cooler.

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Supreme_War_Pig · 2023-02-13T23:23:57.374Z

Oh, no doubt. I’m a total fan.

Eagle-Keeper · 2023-02-13T23:44:22.740Z

Gaius:

What could this possibly mean for the move to make everything run on electricity?

Well, we’d better start opening more copper mines.

There’s not enough resources in the world to meet the needs of the projected 10 billion people to inhabit this planet in the next 25 years.

Gaius · 2023-02-13T23:50:14.941Z

Eagle-Keeper:

Gaius:

What could this possibly mean for the move to make everything run on electricity?

Well, we’d better start opening more copper mines.

There’s not enough resources in the world to meet the needs of the projected 10 billion people to inhabit this planet in the next 25 years.

There is always enough resources.

FreeAndClear · 2023-02-14T00:03:21.543Z

Cratic3947:

This is why the market and not the govt should be in charge of the economy. The govt is full of fools led by the corrupt. They don’t care if products work.

Now do big pharma companies.

Gaius · 2023-02-14T00:11:59.677Z

FreeAndClear:

Cratic3947:

This is why the market and not the govt should be in charge of the economy. The govt is full of fools led by the corrupt. They don’t care if products work.

Now do big pharma companies.

I think James O’Keefe already did them.

FreeAndClear · 2023-02-14T01:06:10.468Z

Gaius:

FreeAndClear:

Cratic3947:

This is why the market and not the govt should be in charge of the economy. The govt is full of fools led by the corrupt. They don’t care if products work.

Now do big pharma companies.

I think James O’Keefe already did them.

market!!

Gaius · 2023-02-14T01:18:36.282Z

FreeAndClear:

market!!

I am pretty sure the government was involved.

Subsidies and mandates, only begin the heavy-handed government involvement on that one. (You have heard about the subsides and mandates right?)

FreeAndClear · 2023-02-14T01:23:35.298Z

Gaius:

FreeAndClear:

market!!

I am pretty sure the government was involved.

Subsidies and mandates, only begin the heavy-handed government involvement on that one. (You have heard about the subsides and mandates right?)

The government has been “involved” with the market since the founding of this country. “The market” is a fantasy.

Gaius · 2023-02-14T01:28:40.000Z

FreeAndClear:

The government has been “involved” with the market since the founding of this country. “The market” is a fantasy.

DougBH · 2023-02-14T03:14:44.325Z

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Supreme_War_Pig:

Does it have to be copper? What about aluminum?

A LOT of burned down houses, courtesy of aluminum wiring.

I don’t think we want to go there.

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Yes. My area was built largely in the early seventies when aluminum was legal to use in wiring. It was also prohibited to use it in house wiring in the late seventies because the older it got the more likely it was to burn the house down. Most houses (such as mine) have been rewired with copper by now.

Samm · 2023-02-14T04:05:51.932Z

Gaius:

Eagle-Keeper:

Gaius:

What could this possibly mean for the move to make everything run on electricity?

Well, we’d better start opening more copper mines.

There’s not enough resources in the world to meet the needs of the projected 10 billion people to inhabit this planet in the next 25 years.

There is always enough resources.

Not if you are not allowed to extract them.

Biden’s EPA just drove a spike through the heart of the largest known copper deposit in North America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/01/31/epa-may-have-delivered-knock-out-blow-alaskas-pebble-mine/

floydefisher · 2023-02-15T13:19:20.841Z

IIRC, most of that is due to mixing copper and aluminum. Like aluminum wiring and copper electric outlets. Or aluminum wiring connecting to copper wiring.

Had an apartment with aluminum wiring and had to watch out for that.

SixFoot · 2023-02-15T14:44:07.648Z

FreeAndClear:

Cratic3947:

This is why the market and not the govt should be in charge of the economy. The govt is full of fools led by the corrupt. They don’t care if products work.

Now do big pharma companies.

OK - Government is the reason that state-sanctioned drug dealers sell you the most synthetic drugs with the most synthetic side effects.

Impenitent · 2023-02-16T01:07:31.969Z

does this mean we will miraculously find more copper in 2030?

Gaius · 2023-02-16T01:14:49.384Z

Impenitent:

does this mean we will miraculously find more copper in 2030?

My guess is in 2030 we still won’t have enough,
The article did not say why 2030 is some kind of end date,
but it did forecast copper prices doubling by 2025.

Presumably that would lead to more mines being started.

Samm · 2023-02-16T03:22:42.645Z

Impenitent:

does this mean we will miraculously find more copper in 2030?

I already mentioned where they can find 55 billion tons of it.

Paul_Thomson · 2023-02-17T16:12:15.223Z

Gaius:

There is always enough resources.

Yeah. The greatest shortage, and it may not improve any time soon, is one of common sense.