Actively stolen and still suspected of hiding classified documents (Trump is not out to contempt woods yet by any means) versus misplaced.
Going to some valiant yet lame bad faith arguments to try to equivocate cooking up! I eagerly await the self debasement.
They probably suspected, but were not allowed to search so they weren’t sure.
Hence the request to put a lock on the door probably thinking they would be back.
A probability that proved true as probable cause was developed to get a search warrant and low an behold there were documents still there even after the FPOTUS attorney certified that all had been turned over.
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STODR
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Why don’t you link to where it ssys it instead of hiding it among thousands of pages.
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STODR
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Probably… so you are guessing
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tnt
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I think that given this was the FPOTUS and that he had made claims that the material was his, and given that the totes they saw had all sorts of documents in them, they gave him deference, and went from there.
Tguns
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One mans theft is another mans “misplacement”.
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DougBH
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Bad faith is saying one was more “actively stolen” than the other. They were both placed in boxes at the White House and transported to,areas under control of the former officials. The same process.
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You really wanna go down the road of comparing the two situations? Really?
tnt
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Yeah, that’s true. There is a difference of scale, but sure, they both took things they shouldn’t have.
One party then argued for over a year that they did not have to return anything, and actively fraught the return of the documents. The other party found them and turned them over the next day - at least that is their claim.
It should be investigated though.
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Tguns
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I think that’s a fair assessment.
JayJay
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The difference is in how the parties involved behaved and are behaving after the discovery of the documents.
One is cooperating…the other is most certainly not.
No amount of equivocating will change that.
And this isn’t even saying Biden should be let off the hook. This should continue to be investigated, and Biden should be requested to look into any documents he took away after Obama’s term ended.
But there is a night and day difference between how Trump’s team has behaved/is behaving than the Biden team.
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DougBH
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The “other party” didn’t find them, his attorney did. They were shipped to and located at the building holding Biden’s office until 2019.
Who authorized these to be shipped to Biden’s office. Somebody knew about them years before the attorney found them. They didn’t ship themselves.
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No, stolen is the correct description of Trumps actions and classified information. There’s no other way to characterize it without turning yourself into knots.
DougBH
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Ok. Investigate. Regardless, this confirms Trump’s statement that other Presidents/VPs have removed papers belonging to the government.
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Where are you getting this from?
Do you have a link showing that these documents were “shipped” to Biden’s office?