Choice As Long As The Body Is Inhabited

[Blackwolf]

@FloridaYankee

I don’t care what people’s opinions are and it’s a disturbing thing, but the government just doesn’t have the right. Freedom is a messy thing.

If the highly restrictive laws currently making their way through the American South were just a challenge to SCOTUS to revisit Row v Wade, do you think the proponents gave much thought to the ramifications of this, i.e the precedent it may well set when it comes to what controls the State may try to impose on bodily autonomy at some point in the future?

[FloridaYankee]

@Blackwolf

@FloridaYankee

I don’t care what people’s opinions are and it’s a disturbing thing, but the government just doesn’t have the right. Freedom is a messy thing.

If the highly restrictive laws currently making their way through the American South were just a challenge to SCOTUS to revisit Row v Wade, do you think the proponents gave much thought to the ramifications of this, i.e the precedent it may well set when it comes to what controls the State may try to impose on bodily autonomy at some point in the future?

Hell no, they are writing the laws they actually want and screw the ramifications.

[WuWei]

Best post of the thread.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@Blackwolf

@FloridaYankee

I don’t care what people’s opinions are and it’s a disturbing thing, but the government just doesn’t have the right. Freedom is a messy thing.

If the highly restrictive laws currently making their way through the American South were just a challenge to SCOTUS to revisit Row v Wade, do you think the proponents gave much thought to the ramifications of this, i.e the precedent it may well set when it comes to what controls the State may try to impose on bodily autonomy at some point in the future?

Hell no, they are writing the laws they actually want and screw the ramifications.

Did the proponents of choice think about their consequences?

[calirepub]

If a sperm is wasted God gets quite irate.

[Blackwolf]

@FloridaYankee

Hell no, they are writing the laws they actually want and screw the ramifications.

I’m sure there are some who would be overjoyed if abortion were entirely outlawed in America, certainly. But there are others who are more calculating, and see these laws as unworkable in and of themselves. Their value (to them) is to get SCOTUS to revisit Roe with conservatives on the bench and see what can and cannot be thrown out.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

You are deflecting while deflecting. If you’re so uncomfortable you can’t vote, simply stop posting and reading and find something else.

No, I think I’ll hang about and engage others. If you want me to stop engaging you I’ll respect that.

Thanks.

Engage. Deflect. Give it a name.

[Mountain_Soldier]

So-called gun control. Many liberals want nothing short of full registration and even confiscation.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@FloridaYankee

Hell no, they are writing the laws they actually want and screw the ramifications.

I’m sure there are some who would be overjoyed if abortion were entirely outlawed in America, certainly. But there are others who are more calculating, and see these laws as unworkable in and of themselves. Their value (to them) is to get SCOTUS to revisit Roe with conservatives on the bench and see what can and cannot be thrown out.

Roe has already been revisited. By 8 weeks.

[Blackwolf]

Wondered how long it would take before someone mentioned guns.

[Mountain_Soldier]

Same type of issue, is it not? Liberals want draconian measures.

[Blackwolf]

@Mountain_Soldier

So-called gun control. Many liberals want nothing short of full registration and even confiscation.

And more to the point? You reinforce my contention that fringe extremists on both sides of this issue (or the gun issue) are shortsighted and unrealistic.

[Blackwolf]

@Mountain_Soldier

Same type of issue, is it not? Liberals want draconian measures.

And conservatives want draconian measures on abortion.

Except wait - that’s a gross generalization and wholly untrue. Much like what you just said about liberals.

[Mountain_Soldier]

I can quote several liberals on here who want draconian measures, and those in congress. How’s it a generalization?

[WuWei]

@Mountain_Soldier

So-called gun control. Many liberals want nothing short of full registration and even confiscation.

This is not a gun thread brother. Please stay on topic.

[Tilly_jow]

@WuWei

@Blackwolf

@FloridaYankee

Hell no, they are writing the laws they actually want and screw the ramifications.

I’m sure there are some who would be overjoyed if abortion were entirely outlawed in America, certainly. But there are others who are more calculating, and see these laws as unworkable in and of themselves. Their value (to them) is to get SCOTUS to revisit Roe with conservatives on the bench and see what can and cannot be thrown out.

Roe has already been revisited. By 8 weeks.

Roe should reflect advances in medical science.

[Blackwolf]

@Mountain_Soldier

I can quote several liberals on here who want draconian measures, and those in congress. How’s it a generalization?

You really have to ask? Your experience of “several liberals” on a small political site of less than 1000 members hardly enables you to say “Liberals want X” without it sounding specious as hell.

[Blackwolf]

@Tilly_jow

Roe should reflect advances in medical science.

Something tells me the proponents of these bills are motivated by something other than science.

[WuWei]

@Tilly_jow

@WuWei

@Blackwolf

@FloridaYankee

Hell no, they are writing the laws they actually want and screw the ramifications.

I’m sure there are some who would be overjoyed if abortion were entirely outlawed in America, certainly. But there are others who are more calculating, and see these laws as unworkable in and of themselves. Their value (to them) is to get SCOTUS to revisit Roe with conservatives on the bench and see what can and cannot be thrown out.

Roe has already been revisited. By 8 weeks.

Roe should reflect advances in medical science.

A Living SCOTUS decision?

Why not just run it out to dilation and be done with it?

[Mountain_Soldier]

My bad.