JayJay
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As far as pro-choicers “not admitting a life is being taken”, this is also patently false, as many completely admit that a life is being taken.
JayJay
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People…ALL PEOPLE, even pro-lifers, every day make borh conscious and unconscious decisions as to which human life they value more than other human life.
And you keep ignoring that women choose to not have abortions.
komobu
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Of course. Life is about the choices we make and the consequences for poor ones.
I did say it was your prerogative. Just don’t rationalize it with some long winded aspersions to long posts … with a long post no less.
Hi I responded to you. It kills a human life. Every abortion kills a life. There should be a limit. Choice should be allowed.
Guvnah
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Not what I said.
Reading comprehension, man!!
Guvnah
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No question, I would value my life more than yours. But I wouldn’t kill you because of that. Abortion is a deliberate killing.
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JayJay
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Yes it is what you said and several pro-choicers agreed a choice to kill was being made.
Guvnah
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The limit should be zero. It’s an evil practice.
JayJay
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Whether or not you would kill me is irrelevant. Based on valuing some human life over others, other human life dies. You may attempt to comfort yourself by saying at least you didn’t kill such life, but death is the end result anyway.
It’s why Jezcoe said defending the unborn is the easiest thing you can do because nothing is asked of you. Free way to feel morally superior.
Guvnah
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No. It’s not. It’s merely a subset of what I said.
Cool. You admit you’re killing a human life. But then just handwave it away.
The pro-abort logic that plays lip service to the human life in question says, “Sure, I know it’s a human life. But it’s of no value to me, so … meh.”
Guvnah
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“Human life dies …”
In abortion it’s not just some circumstance. It’s a deliberate killing. Calculated and deliberate.
And you defend that.
JayJay
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Cool…you can admit “Sure that kid is going to die of cancer because his dad can’t afford healthcare, but that kid is of no value to me so I don’t feel the need to reach into my pocket to allow poorer people to afford healthcare”.
So is war, so is the death penalty. I don’t see you complaining about that.
JayJay
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This is an irrelevant distinction no matter how hard you try to make it relevant.
Yes this is correct and this applies to quite a few rights that we enjoy as citizens of this country. Do you want me to list all the rights that we enjoy where the value of human life is disregarded or reduced and yet i will argue that those rights deserve to be protected?
It’s not a rationalization. Your body is your body. You should have a choice over your body. Anti-abortion laws clearly violate privacy and give the government sovereignty over your internal organs.
A man does not sign away his rights to his internal organs when he has sex. Implying that a woman does is clearly sexist.
I already stated previously that I don’t agree with forced parenthood. A man should be able to sign away parental rights, just as parents can give up a child for adoption or a woman can have an abortion.
The law is supposed to serve society, not the other way around. Laws that make life harder are stupid.
Guvnah
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You have lost all sense of rationality.