Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine Coronavirus cures?

[SottoVoce]

Not directions for use. What does the label say about swallowing or ingestion?

How much betadine would you have to drink to achieve a systemic concentration to have an effect on a virus within the type II cells of the lung?

People often get a little gas in their mouth when syphoning a tank. Probably swallow a little bit too. Is gas OK to drink?

[Paul_Thomson]

@SottoVoce

Not directions for use. What does the label say about swallowing or ingestion?

Nothing about swallowing or ingesting. As I said. How do you gargle without swallowing any at all? This is Cipladine povidine- iodine gargle. Are you a doctor? Nobody has suggested “drinking” it, or taking it in excessive doses.

[Paul_Thomson]

@SottoVoce

How much betadine would you have to drink to achieve a systemic concentration to have an effect on a virus within the type II cells of the lung?

Did Trump suggest drinking large does of anything? He simply asked if there might be something that acts like a disinfectant that could be given internally (in a sufficient safe dose, obviously) to knock out viruses as quickly as disinfectants do externally.

Why are you trying to colour my post as suggesting people taking excessive and damaging doses of Iodine?

[PurpnGold]

@Paul_Thomson

Did Trump suggest drinking large does of anything? He simply asked if there might be something that acts like a disinfectant that could be given internally (in a sufficient safe dose, obviously) to knock out viruses as quickly as disinfectants do externally.

Literally none of this is what he said

He didn’t say “acts like” disinfectant
He didn’t say “as quickly as disinfectants do”

And then I see the disinfectant , where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

You have no idea what is required to kill this Virus, just stop.

And as you keep demonstrating, neither do you. Only difference is you’re acting as if you do

[Paul_Thomson]

@PurpnGold

He didn’t say “acts like” disinfectant
He didn’t say “as quickly as disinfectants do”

And then I see the disinfectant , where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.

“Something like” what?

“where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that…”

Something like the disinfectant does on external surfaces. I.e. knock out the virus in a minute, but in the lungs.

Would an inhaler containing iodine in safe doses inject iodine into the lungs? Would the iodine kill the virus in the lungs? It’s worth asking the question.

[SottoVoce]

@Paul_Thomson

@SottoVoce

How much betadine would you have to drink to achieve a systemic concentration to have an effect on a virus within the type II cells of the lung?

Did Trump suggest drinking large does of anything? He simply asked if there might be something that acts like a disinfectant that could be given internally (in a sufficient safe dose, obviously) to knock out viruses as quickly as disinfectants do externally.

Why are you trying to colour my post as suggesting people taking excessive and damaging doses of Iodine?

Great. Give an example of a “disinfectant” that can be given orally in a safe manner and in high enough concentrations to affect the coronavirus. Suggesting accidentally ingesting a small volume of betadine translates into a real world application of consuming therapeutic levels of topical disinfectants is dangerous and false.

[sikofit]

@Phaedrus

You didn’t repeat yourself - you refused to engage. The flaw in your reasoning is that you continued to defend as legitimate if unorthodox speculation, statements that the president clearly said he meant to be a sarcastic joke. They’re one or the other. Which is it?

That’s only one of several flaws

[sikofit]

@kingarthur65

@WildRose

Trump isn’t writing prescriptions and nobody is buying it without one written by a licensed physician.

The only reason Trump even knew about it was because doctors had been using it successfully and it made the press.

This is what I told you was going to happen. People ask for it and Drs prescribe it.
People died from this.

People died because the President promoted something he didn’t fully grasp

[sikofit]

@kingarthur65

@WildRose

Adverse action reports that showed no causal relationship.

That’s your claim, not mine. In your own words, it’s up to you to support your claim.

Yes, that is the way it works.

[sikofit]

@kingarthur65

@WildRose

What a chicken ■■■■ argument.

The adverse incidents were posted in this same thread and not one of them included the use of these drugs as being the cause of death. In the largest one it was specifically excluded.

Stop with the chicken ■■■■ argument and just admit you cannot show a causal relationship because we both know you can’t.

Your words.

People died from this.

Stand up on your hind legs and provide the evidence if you have any.

Your claim is chicken ■■■■■ A letter sent out by the FDA was posted on this board. I know because I posted it.

It stated just as I claimed. Adverse events were reported by the Drs. The adverse events included deaths, just like I said then and just like I said before.

Now, as to your claim that you read the reports that is just another lie your telling. Just like your claim that the Drs reports stated that they couldn’t find a causal relationship.

You once again took something that I said and could not comprehend what was said AND you took the quote from the FDA that I posted and twisted that into something that didn’t exist.

I notice that happens a lot from certain posters

[JayJay]

@sikofit

@kingarthur65

@WildRose

Adverse action reports that showed no causal relationship.

That’s your claim, not mine. In your own words, it’s up to you to support your claim.

Yes, that is the way it works.

Well he didn’t know what safety studies actually study either…

[sikofit]

@kingarthur65

@WildRose

“In the largest one” is exactly this study which I was talking about.

You have absolutely nothing to support your claims and we both know it so just stop.

You have already destroyed any credibility you might have once had here.

What happened to those reports you claimed to have read? What happened to to those?
You said you read the adverse event reports submitted to the FDA by the Drs. What happened to those?

Are you just going to replace that claim with a study you found to support your position?

Oops.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

It’s fairly common too when one gang is trying to move in on another’s territory to try to work tainted dope into their supply.

Can you prove this “common” occurrence? Just because it might of been in a movie doesn’t mean it actually happens on any type of regular basis

[mot1man]

Do these count?

Chemotherapy drugs may be administered:

• Orally: In pill or liquid form are taken by mouth
• Infusion: Delivered directly into a vein through an intravenous drip. This process may take several hours.
• Injection: Delivered through a needle injected into a vein, muscle or under the skin
• Topically: In cream form and are spread on the skin
• Intrathecal: Delivered directly into the central nervous system
• Intraperitoneal: Given directly into the abdominal cavity

Chemotherapy: What Is It and How Does It Work?

[JayJay]

@mot1man

Do these count?

Chemotherapy drugs may be administered:

• Orally: In pill or liquid form are taken by mouth
• Infusion: Delivered directly into a vein through an intravenous drip. This process may take several hours.
• Injection: Delivered through a needle injected into a vein, muscle or under the skin
• Topically: In cream form and are spread on the skin
• Intrathecal: Delivered directly into the central nervous system
• Intraperitoneal: Given directly into the abdominal cavity

Chemotherapy: What Is It and How Does It Work?

None of those are disinfectants.

[sikofit]

@WildRose

Few disinfectants have anywhere near the record with viruses Iodine has.

He was talking about Iodine? Can you point out where he said this? Even days later will suffice. Thanks in advance

@WildRose

Why do you think he refuses to quote what Trump actually said?

[sikofit]

@Borgia_dude

@WildRose

You didn’t provide anything, you dodged the entire abstract and went right to the summary which makes providing it for you a complete waste of time.

Since you didn’t bother to read it you didn’t know there were zero deaths attributed to the use of those drugs which you are supporting and it was completely false.

Wildrose, all I did was excerpt the study you provided. I didn’t add any commentary.

Sheesh, it seems you aren’t happy with the study’s conclusions or recommendations.

I notice that happens a lot

[sikofit]

@PurpnGold

@WildRose

And misrepresented it entirely just as us you usually do.\

It’s what we’ve come to expect.

I didn’t misrepresent anything. That is the exact quote.

Trump said he was being sarcastic anyway… so why does it matter?

Because that destroys the narrative that some were already entrenched in

[mot1man]

Right, because obviously, he “literally” meant drinking a cleaning disinfectant.