China is becoming a Huge Military Threat

[SixFoot]

If you’re not too old to volunteer, you should join the Army and see for yourself.

[Safiel]

The little piddling conflicts in the Mideast are entirely irrelevant to understanding a war with China.

[WuWei]

@57Nomad

It’s also fascinating how some people believe our military is capable of ‘‘anything’’. The look at ‘‘great victories’’ in Grenada, and Panama, even the two Iraq wars. They think that’s what they will all be like. Well, China isn’t Grenada or Panama or even Iraq. But some don’t seem to be able to tell the difference.

You probably don’t know this, but the US military is built for a war like China would be. Might want to look at Desert Storm for a small taste.

Probably doesn’t come up much on Call of Duty 4.

[SixFoot]

All we did was clinch a fist at Iraq in 1991, much less take a glove off.

GWoT is all open-hand slaps.

[WuWei]

@Safiel

The little piddling conflicts in the Mideast are entirely irrelevant to understanding a war with China.

I don’t want to mess with a single AC 130, much less a carrier group.

[57Nomad]

@WuWei

@57Nomad

It’s also fascinating how some people believe our military is capable of ‘‘anything’’. The look at ‘‘great victories’’ in Grenada, and Panama, even the two Iraq wars. They think that’s what they will all be like. Well, China isn’t Grenada or Panama or even Iraq. But some don’t seem to be able to tell the difference.

You probably don’t know this, but the US military is built for a war like China would be. Might want to look at Desert Storm for a small taste.

Probably doesn’t come up much on Call of Duty 4.

You should go back and read where this started before you jump into something you don’t understand.

[SixFoot]

Now, a multinational live fire exercise?

[Safiel]

BTW, arrogance can be painful, even for the United States.

From the Army Navy Game program for November 29, 1941.

The caption next to the bow on photo of the USS Arizona states, “A bow on view of the U.S.S. Arizona as she plows into a huge swell. It is significant that despite the claims of air enthusiasts no battleship has yet been sunk by bombs.”

Nine days later, the USS Arizona was blown to bits and the Age of the Battleship was over forever.

Yes, arrogance can be quite painful.

[WuWei]

@57Nomad

You should go back and read where this started before you jump into something you don’t understand.

I did read it. You’re still wrong.

What do you know about war?

[57Nomad]

@WuWei

@57Nomad

You should go back and read where this started before you jump into something you don’t understand.

I did read it. You’re still wrong.

What do you know about war?

You must have been an enlisted.

[SixFoot]

another lost “LT.”

[57Nomad]

@Safiel

BTW, arrogance can be painful, even for the United States.

From the Army Navy Game program for November 29, 1941.

The caption next to the bow on photo of the USS Arizona states, “A bow on view of the U.S.S. Arizona as she plows into a huge swell. It is significant that despite the claims of air enthusiasts no battleship has yet been sunk by bombs.”

Nine days later, the USS Arizona was blown to bits and the Age of the Battleship was over forever.

Yes, arrogance can be quite painful.

And think, who ever wrote that never realize the end of the era the battleship was upon them. They’d only be made for another 3-31/2 years.

[Safiel]

@57Nomad

And think, who ever wrote that never realize the end of the era the battleship was upon them. They’d only be made for another 3-31/2 years.

Primarily because they were already under construction. The last two of the Iowa class were cancelled and the entire Montana class were cancelled, to devote resources to Aircraft Carriers.

Battleships did play a significant SUPPORTING role during World War II, but they never again would take the central role.

Only the British completed a Battleship after World War II and basically served as a yacht for King George VI, before going to early decommissioning and scrapping as useless for any military purpose.

The United States kept the four Iowa’s around for decades, but mostly as floating phallus’s.

[57Nomad]

@Safiel

The United States kept the four Iowa’s around for decades, but mostly as floating phallus’s

That part of the navy died hard.

[TommyLucchese]

@57Nomad

Not with ‘‘a couple of aircraft carriers’’.

Carrier groups. A single US carrier group is more powerful than 99% of the world’s navies. Arm half a dozen boomers-ballistic missile subs-with antiship missiles or what have you and boom. Game over.

There may come a day when hypersonic missiles and drones change the game entirely but that day is not today.

[SixFoot]

@TommyLucchese

There may come a day when hypersonic missiles and drones change the game entirely but that day is not today.

This is why we need satellites with frickin’ laser beams attached to their foreheads.

[TommyLucchese]

@SixFoot

Shouldn’t be surprising.

99% of anyone here has never been in war. Even 99% of the people here who have deployed have never seen actual combat.

It’s not an easy thing to comprehend, given the sheer magnitude, when one hasn’t even seen a fraction of it in action. Videos don’t do ■■■■ for it either.

I have to admit it took a couple posters who are in this thread and one who isn’t for me to go find out exactly how powerful the US military really is and it’s truly next level bonkers. Totally ludicrous.

[WuWei]

@57Nomad

You must have been an enlisted.

So nothing.

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

another lost “LT.”

Call of Duty 4 rank.

[TommyLucchese]

@Safiel

BTW, arrogance can be painful, even for the United States.

Thing is, the current versions of revolutionary technology like WW2 air power are network-centric warfare and control of space and on both fronts the US military is a thousand miles ahead of its competitors.