Charles Murray steps in it again

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

What difference does it make, you haven’t read it.

I understand.

Thanks for the clear, straightforward answer.

Good. You’re welcome.

Are you criticizing The Bell Curve? I’m asking because your posts seem to suggest that.

[Smyrna]

…and now, let us all consider the opposite culture found in Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore, St. Louis, Los Angeles…and recognize the same thing Charles Murray said…but in reverse.

[WuWei]

@tnt

Wait - are you advocating for the Bell Curve?

I haven’t finished it yet, so no. I’m might get to the last page and it says “Minorities are stupid” so I won’t be able to.

So far, it’s not what I was led to believe by those who obviously haven’t read it.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Good. You’re welcome.

Are you criticizing The Bell Curve ? I’m asking because your posts seem to suggest that.

What difference does it make, you haven’t read it.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Good. You’re welcome.

Are you criticizing The Bell Curve ? I’m asking because your posts seem to suggest that.

What difference does it make, you haven’t read it.

I’ve opened it. I’m working on it. I’ve read some of it. I own it. You?

[tnt]

@WuWei

I’ve opened it. I’m working on it. I’ve read some of it. I own it. You?

Sure, sure. I understand.

Spoiler: he doesn’t say out loud what he wants you to say in your head. It’s more a subtle psychological thriller than a fast paced action book.

[TommyLucchese]

@Smyrna

Are you ready? Birds of a feather, flock together…and all you have to do is open your eyes to see this truth. That said, when many do the same thing, it forms a culture. These children hang around with other children doing similar things. What I described is true and it fortunately or unfortunately becomes a culture with in a racial group. That’s why what he said about Asians is spot on. They have a higher probability within their culture to remain married, sacrifice short term wants for accomplishing long term goals…period but it has NOTHING to do with IQ.

Charles Murray’s entire worldview is that IQ is destiny for a five race theory that doesn’t even exist.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

I’ve opened it. I’m working on it. I’ve read some of it. I own it. You?

Sure, sure. I understand.

Spoiler: he doesn’t say out loud what he wants you to say in your head. It’s more a subtle psychological thriller than a fast paced action book.

Is that what you read about it?

[WuWei]

@TommyLucchese

Charles Murray’s entire worldview is that IQ is destiny for a five race theory that doesn’t even exist.

Interesting.

[Cratic3947]

Biden = “Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.” Then the dem elected this racist …

[tzu]

The problem with IQ tests is context.

[tzu]

Opposite to what?

[Smyrna]

@tzu

Opposite to what?

The opposite of two parents being involved in raising, guiding and equipping the children they brought into this world, into adulthood.

[WuWei]

@tzu

The problem with IQ tests is context.

Ah, now you have a completely different argument. And in my opinion a valid one.

As they clearly state, it was the available common denominator, as imperfect as it is.

What is your context argument?

[tzu]

Too vague. Be specific. Plus, two parents is not a ‘culture’. It’s a statistically measurable outcome.

[WuWei]

@tzu

Plus, two parents is not a ‘culture’.

I disagree.

[Smyrna]

@tzu

Too vague. Be specific. Plus, two parents is not a ‘culture’. It’s a statistically measurable outcome.

The culture is the bi-product of so many living in a close, geographical radius, that influences the behavior, that then repeats itself from generation to generation and exacerbates that behavior into the violence that’s now happening in the inner cities throughout the country.

[tzu]

Same argument, different approach. IQ tests for a very narrow competence. A competence a specific kind of elite would rather not have to admit is trained, prepatory and contextual: i.e., for a group of people with a resource base that allows for an abstraction of problem solving.

And even that misses important elements of intelligence, as this article will explain better than I:

Rational and Irrational Thought: The Thinking That IQ Tests Miss

[tzu]

Oh, you’re peddling hogwash. Sorry, I thought you might make an argument about rationality, resources and the legal framework that distributes them.

[tzu]

It’s not like it could be any other way.